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Inevitable

08-19-2005, 03:57 PM

Been doing awful at 25NL at Stars. I'm sure half of my losses have been to bad beats, but the other half I'm sure it's through bad play. I've been stacked numerous times and I just want to post a few hands to see if there are some hands where I made critical errors and hopefully fix them. I've been playing with a TAG image. There are a lot of other hands with more glaring errors, but these were the only ones I could remember or find on PT.

Hand 1:

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BB ($59.40)
UTG ($23.60)
UTG+1 ($19.25)
Hero ($24.90)
MP2 ($35.05)
MP3 ($15)
CO ($10.25)
Button ($38.20)
SB ($32.05)

Villian here is a typical loose/passive 69.79!/6.25/0.69/96 WTSD 38.57. His minbets looked me to like probing bets, and I represented strength. I'm guessing my agressive tendencies went a little too far here and I didn't think about what my opponent could have had because he had been calling raises with nothing. If he pushed my raise on the river, would it be correct to fold, even to this player? What's a good WTSD% for a TAG?

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif. MP3 posts a blind of $0.25.
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, 4 folds, SB calls $1.15, 1 fold.

Flop: ($3) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets $1, Hero raises to $3, SB calls $2.

Turn: ($9) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
SB bets $1, Hero raises to $5, SB calls $4.

River: ($19) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets $1, Hero raises to $10, SB calls $9.

Final Pot: $39

Hand 2:

Villian here again is a crazy loose player with semi-agressive tendencies. 85!!/31.67/1.86/60 WTSD 34.78. He's basically been involved in every single hand and calling/betting with nothing. I checked on the flop as a slow-play and called on the turn as a slow play because the board was uncoordinated and I thought it was the perfect time against such a loose player. I was trying to extract the maximum without scaring him off. I feel like maybe I should have raised the turn, thinking that he paired up.

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UTG ($24.65)
Hero ($24.65)
MP2 ($20.30)
CO ($17)
Button ($37.35)
SB ($9.75)
BB ($53.45)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif. CO posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.5, 4 folds, BB calls $1.25, UTG folds.

Flop: ($3.60) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($3.60) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB bets $2, Hero calls $2.

River: ($7.60) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
BB bets $5, Hero raises to $10, BB calls $5.

Final Pot: $27.60

Hand 3:

Villian here is 50/20/1.25/10 WTSD 50% I'm not sure where I went wrong this hand, I guess it's just not thinking about what he had. I didn't want to re-raise the PFR because I wanted more callers behind me and to mask the strength of my hand.

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UTG ($6.50)
UTG+1 ($9.65)
MP1 ($10.70)
Hero ($24.15)
CO ($22.65)
Button ($22.65)
SB ($15.25)
BB ($81.80)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG raises to $1.25, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.25, CO calls $1.25, 3 folds.

Flop: ($4.10) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $4, CO calls $4, UTG folds.

Turn: ($12.10) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $6, CO calls $6.

River: ($24.10) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $12.9 (All-In), CO calls $11.40 (All-In).

Final Pot: $48.40

Hand 4:

So I've dropped down a level to 10NL where there are more loose players than 25NL. Villian in this hand is 45/0/1/23. Should I have checked the flop or turn? Against such a loose player, do you find a fold on the turn like I did? I put him on J/x.

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CO ($4)
Button ($9.75)
SB ($14.45)
Hero ($10.20)
UTG ($9.15)
UTG+1 ($12.30)
MP1 ($9.75)
MP2 ($3.90)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls $0.10, UTG+1 calls $0.10, MP1 calls $0.10, MP2 calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.70) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (7 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.5, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $0.50, MP2 folds, CO folds, SB folds.

Turn: ($1.70) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1, MP1 raises to $5, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $7.70

I'll post more hands I've made errors in as I go, I'd appreciate any help. Thanks.

orange

08-19-2005, 04:17 PM

Hand 1
As played out, I like calling the turn instead of raising. Your raise accomplishes little-you have 2 big cards and not much fold equity. Raising the river is ok IMO. Given the stack sizes, I wouldn't fold the river if he went all in, you've put in too much.

Hand 2
Played too passively IMO, I would lead the flop, bet the turn, and 1/2 pot the river. Raise the turn as played out.

Hand 3
You need to reraise here IMO, it gives too many players a chance to stack you with marginal holdings. I like the postflop play.

08-19-2005, 04:43 PM

I'll give it a shot...

Hand 1 I think is fine until the turn, but when a passive player bets it again like that it looks like a scared tptk or 2-pair to me. I'm not really sure though, his play is confusing me. To be honest I'd probably just call the turn and call the river but I'm not so sure that raise is bad.

Hand 2 If he's as you described him I'd just bet the flop to build up the pot so I can make my later bets larger where as I'd be more afraid a raise on the turn or river may scare him off.

Hand 3 I second what orange said

Hand 4 I insta-fold also

08-19-2005, 05:23 PM

I haven't read any of the other responses, but here goes:

Hand 1: Villain's $1 turn bet sets off alarm bells in my head. I start to think here that he is walking the dog--that he knows you're going to hang yourself here, and he's just gonna let you. I slow down here, and, as much as I want to puke doing it, I just call the turn and maybe the river (although if you just call on the turn he makes a bigger river bet). He played this all the way like he had a monster and was feeding you rope.

Hand 2: Bet the flop; someone so pathologically laggy calls, and you don't want to give a lag on a draw a free card. Just calling the turn is fine, with me, since the 9 is a scare card. I also just call on the river here--where top pair is only a jack and there's a possible straight from the play, yeah, I just call.

Hand 3: reRaise preflop; big pocket pairs want to be HU; you DO NOT want to let in hands that can outdraw you. Reraise preflop. Did I mention that you should have reraised preflop here? Otherwise, it looks ok. I am praying that villain had 87, because that would teach you a sharp lesson about letting drawing hands in against your big pair. How do you prevent it? Did i mention reraising preflop?

Inevitable

08-19-2005, 05:31 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Hand 3
You need to reraise here IMO, it gives too many players a chance to stack you with marginal holdings. I like the postflop play.

[/ QUOTE ]

Huh?

Inevitable

08-19-2005, 06:22 PM

He had Q7, and yeah.. I learned my lesson.

orange

08-19-2005, 08:02 PM

Hand 3: reraise the flop IMO.