Tricky ladies.

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This is from a $10+1. The PF raise is OK?

Would you call Villain's push?


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB (t910)
UTG (t860)
UTG+1 (t680)
UTG+2 (t520)
MP1 (t935)
MP2 (t1355)
MP3 (t1050)
CO (t220)
Hero (t735)
SB (t735)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, MP3 calls t50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t250</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls t200.

Flop: (t575) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets t800 (All-In)</font>, Hero?

[Nacarno]

At a 10+1 I'd call and expect to see a flush draw, a lower pair, or a complete bluff. I'd expect to see each of them more than an A.

[unreal_nh]

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At a 10+1 I'd call and expect to see a flush draw, a lower pair, or a complete bluff. I'd expect to see each of them more than an A.

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[SammyKid11]

I don't see myself calling here, no. Save your chips and hope to put them to use in pushbot time.

[starvs]

Does someone really go ahead and push here with an ace, over betting the pot? I don't think it's that likley, but at the 11s you really never know what the players rational is. But I would go ahead and call here and expect to see a gutshot draw more than an ace. I really don't see a hand thats beating you just pushing on this flop enough of the time where you have to worry about it.

[Jman28]

I usually raise to t200 here, but at if they're gonna call t250 with crappy hands, go for it.

This is an instacall on the flop for me.

[yabastid]

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At a 10+1 I'd call and expect to see a flush draw, a lower pair, or a complete bluff. I'd expect to see each of them more than an A.

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I would raise less PF (150-200). I would defenitly not call the all in. At the 10's almost EVERY player will play their hand if it has an A in it. And they dont know the value of kickers, so AK is the same as A2, and they play with the same strength.

[kong98]

Are you sure this is a 10+1? 10 players at lvl 3 is pretty rare! /images/graemlins/grin.gif

I think your PF raise is a bit too big. It looks like a scared QQ/JJ bet. I typically see bets of 150 at lvl 3, so I'd probably just go to 200 to account for the limper. I guess its not that big of a difference, but that's my thought. (It also leaves you with 535 instead of 485 if you run into a disastrous flop)

This is a tough spot. The more I think about it, the less I like it! Do you have a read on MP3? How did he accumulate the chips he's got?

- If he hit his ace, he is pushing all-in to protect against the flush draw and you're drawing to 2 outs.
- If he has the flush-draw, does he really push this? Unless he's been really aggressive, I think he checks here. He's as afraid of the paired aces as you are.

I think this all comes down to your read of MP3. If he's an idiot, I probably call. If he isn't I cry and probably fold.

If you do call, I'd recommend rivering a queen.

[nate_king1]

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This is from a $10+1. The PF raise is OK?

Would you call Villain's push?


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB (t910)
UTG (t860)
UTG+1 (t680)
UTG+2 (t520)
MP1 (t935)
MP2 (t1355)
MP3 (t1050)
CO (t220)
Hero (t735)
SB (t735)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, MP3 calls t50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t250</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls t200.

Flop: (t575) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets t800 (All-In)</font>, Hero?

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Fold... If there calling the raise chances are likely they have an ace. I'd expect to see Weak Ace here almost all of the time.

[tigerite]

Preflop is fine, 200 or 250, it makes no real odds, I am calling that push, he has a smaller pocket, flush draw or gutshot draw more than enough times to make up for when he has the ace or 44 (I really doubt he'd push with 44 anyway, but you never know with $11 donks)

[Geordie Ramone]

At the £11s I am pushing pre-flop. You will get called by lower PP and Broadway crap more than enough times to make up for the rare occasion its AA or KK, or he catches on the flop.
If it folds back to you its 125 chips, more than 15% of your stack , not to be sniffed at.

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This is from a $10+1. The PF raise is OK?

Would you call Villain's push?


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB (t910)
UTG (t860)
UTG+1 (t680)
UTG+2 (t520)
MP1 (t935)
MP2 (t1355)
MP3 (t1050)
CO (t220)
Hero (t735)
SB (t735)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, MP3 calls t50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t250</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls t200.

Flop: (t575) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets t800 (All-In)</font>, Hero?

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He has a PP, possibly KK, but I'd assume not. I call this donkey play the desperation bet ("Crap, a high card came down!").