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sammy_g
08-18-2005, 11:58 PM
10/20 game. UTG (40/20 guy) raises. 1 fold. I have 88 in the CO. Do I 3 bet or fold?

I folded, but a 2+2er who is better than me says he would raise.

waffle
08-19-2005, 12:02 AM
20 pfr? i'd 3bet 77 and think about 66, and i'm a wuss. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

spamuell
08-19-2005, 12:03 AM
wtf easy easy 3-bet, i'm 3-betting 55 but maybe that's wrong. don't fold 88 though.

DCWGaming
08-19-2005, 12:06 AM
I'd also raise...but my advice is tainted ATM.

99-AA is ahead of you right now.

You can pretty safely put him on A9s+ QJs+ KJo+ or 77+. Thats being pretty conservative.

Dont really know how to do the math past that point, but my guess would be 75-80% of the time you're ahead of him.

If im dumb someone tell me, but it sounds smart to me /images/graemlins/smile.gif

sammy_g
08-19-2005, 12:08 AM
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You can pretty safely put him on A9s+ QJs+ KJo+ or 77+. Thats being pretty conservative.

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I am an underdog against this range.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

1,551,347,424 games 1.875 secs 827,385,292 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 53.3288 % [ 00.53 00.01 ] { AA-77, AKs-A9s, KQs-KTs, QJs, AKo-ATo, KQo-KJo }
Hand 2: 46.6712 % [ 00.46 00.01 ] { 88 }

Edit: I realize there is some dead money in the pot, but he also caps with the hands that have me crushed. I think this is closer than it seems. Tell me if I'm crazy.

weevil
08-19-2005, 12:12 AM
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You can pretty safely put him on A9s+ QJs+ KJo+ or 77+. Thats being pretty conservative.

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I am an underdog against this range.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

1,551,347,424 games 1.875 secs 827,385,292 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 53.3288 % [ 00.53 00.01 ] { AA-77, AKs-A9s, KQs-KTs, QJs, AKo-ATo, KQo-KJo }
Hand 2: 46.6712 % [ 00.46 00.01 ] { 88 }

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Those are hot and cold numbers, so a lot of his wins come from pairing or making a draw on the turn or river. Your flop equity is probably decently ahead of his. You also have position. This is an easy 3bet.

sammy_g
08-19-2005, 12:15 AM
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Those are hot and cold numbers, so a lot of his wins come from pairing or making a draw on the turn or river. Your flop equity is probably decently ahead of his. You also have position. This is an easy 3bet.

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OK, this looks like a leak for me then.

Thanks guys!

sammy_g
08-19-2005, 12:16 AM
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i'd 3bet 77 and think about 66, and i'm a wuss. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Apparently I am, too /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

spamuell
08-19-2005, 12:17 AM
Don't forget how important position is in hands like these where you practically always get to play better than him on the river, especially where he'd check behind with ace-high if he had position but ends up check-calling.