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Karak567
08-18-2005, 02:49 PM
Was I too tricky trappy?

I obviously intended to call any bet/re-raise all in anything he did after I checked.

***** Hand History for Game 2556207834 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:14948134 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Thursday, August 18, 14:47:01 EDT 2005
Table Table 11929 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: sepher28 ( $775 )
Seat 5: xYOURxHEROx ( $1605 )
Seat 7: mandilhon ( $470 )
Seat 6: Loucast ( $700 )
Seat 8: Art_Vandalet ( $900 )
Seat 10: Catocon ( $1005 )
Seat 1: lefty131313 ( $610 )
Seat 9: Vercetti47 ( $775 )
Seat 4: Bamfer ( $485 )
Seat 3: JGMac ( $675 )
Trny:14948134 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to sepher28 [ Ah Ac ]
Loucast folds.
mandilhon folds.
Art_Vandalet raises [120].
Vercetti47 folds.
Catocon folds.
lefty131313 folds.
sepher28 raises [250].
JGMac folds.
Bamfer folds.
xYOURxHEROx folds.
Art_Vandalet calls [130].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2d, 5h, Kc ]
>You have options at Table 10987 Table!.
Art_Vandalet checks.
sepher28 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9s ]
Art_Vandalet checks.
>You have options at Table 10987 Table!.
sepher28 checks.
** Dealing River ** [ Qh ]
Art_Vandalet checks.
sepher28 is all-In [525]
Art_Vandalet folds.
sepher28 does not show cards.
sepher28 wins 1070 chips

tigerite
08-18-2005, 03:04 PM
What else could you do? Sometimes your opponent doesn't pick up anything, it happens. I'm not sure I love the play, though. Seems like you let in too many hands for a free peek at the turn and river - you do only have one pair, after all (yes, it's the best pair, but..)

Ixnert
08-18-2005, 03:13 PM
Might have been able to get a bit more pre-flop, but if he didn't hit the flop that's all you're getting.

(I agree with tigerite that you probably shouldn't have checked both the flop and the turn -- going for the c/r on the flop isn't horrible, but I'd put in something on the turn just so you're not giving him a free chance to hit his set/straight/two pair.)

jon462
08-18-2005, 04:56 PM
he raised 4x the bb first to enter the pot - he isnt likely to go anywhere preflop... raise it more than double. I would raise at least 300, but I woudlnt be surprised if he called a push with his AQ or 1010\JJ.

gumpzilla
08-18-2005, 05:02 PM
Bet somewhere before the river. I'd pick the turn. Bet 1/3-1/2 pot and see what he does. If you're going to bet the river, I don't think this is a good spot for an overbet (it might actually be the size of the pot, big bet is what I'm going for, I guess), because the stacks are too short to make it look super fishy, and he has shown so little interest in the pot that it seems like a strange way to go about stealing it.

08-18-2005, 05:07 PM
i prob. would have made a bigger raise before the flop too

I think it is a major mistake to slowplay, even on the flop. With that much money in the pot already, i think you just have to push on the flop. Way too risky to give free cards here

downtown
08-18-2005, 05:13 PM
Anybody have any comments on the PF reraise of the OP? I think I may try to get it all-in right here, since to me, that 1/3 of your stack reraise smells awfully a lot like AA/KK. In a 22/33, I push into the 4xBB open raise, I think, and hope for a call from AJ+, 88-KK (or sometimes worse). I don't think other hands will pay you off anyway postflop, and IMO this is higher +cEV than the smaller reraise PF.

gumpzilla
08-18-2005, 05:14 PM
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Anybody have any comments on the PF reraise of the OP? I think I may try to get it all-in right here, since to me, that 1/3 of your stack reraise smells awfully a lot like AA/KK. In a 22/33, I push into the 4xBB open raise, I think, and hope for a call from AJ+, 88-KK (or sometimes worse). I don't think other hands will pay you off anyway postflop, and IMO this is higher +cEV than the smaller reraise PF.

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I tend to agree.

Dan Rutter
08-18-2005, 05:31 PM
I would have raised a bit more PF. On the flop I would likely bet there. I think most opponents will find it suspicous when a PFR checks behind on a very clear board for a continuation bet in a heads up pot. If he has a king you will likely get all-in, so you should be betting now. If I choose not to bet the flop, I would have bet about 1/2 the pot on the turn. If you check there, and on the river your opponent wants to play for all your chips you probably have let him outdraw you.

Pete H
08-19-2005, 04:28 AM
Another vote for pushing preflop.

And I also agree that not making a continuation bet is too suspicious, so after your preflop raise I'd bet half pottish on the flop.

Isura
08-19-2005, 04:44 AM
You gotta get the money in preflop here. Someone's already shown strength, and I don't see many $30 players fold to 300 raise with hands like 99-QQ. I'd like to push, but it's a more high risk/high reward play. I'd also bet the flop. WHat hands reraise preflop and check a Kxx rainbow flop that isn't AA,KK,or AK? You probably want to put something in on the turn though, since he's not bluffing or calling the river without a better hand.

Isura
08-19-2005, 04:55 AM
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I think it is a major mistake to slowplay, even on the flop. With that much money in the pot already, i think you just have to push on the flop. Way too risky to give free cards here


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What free cards are we afraid of on the turn?

bennies
08-19-2005, 04:58 AM
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You gotta get the money in preflop here.

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If not, you are giving pocket pairs sufficient odds to call and see if they make the set.

Not betting the flop and turn, I don't know - maybe it's fine.