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xCEO
08-18-2005, 12:05 PM
2+2er don't like to lose aces (I can understand) and tells me that. Also, now he thinks I'm a fish (not in those words).. why??

the pfr was to isolate the very bad UTG player
Should I have raised the turn? or the flop?



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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

River: (9.50 BB) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB
RunDownHouse
08-18-2005, 12:14 PM
Raise flop. Given that you didn't, raise turn. Given that you didn't, OK going for the overcall, I guess.
spydog
08-18-2005, 12:18 PM
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Raise flop. Given that you didn't, raise turn. Given that you didn't, OK going for the overcall, I guess.

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JrJordan
08-18-2005, 12:30 PM
HU, I'd probably just call down vs. the 2+2 so he can keep bluffing his overs. With the bad UTG though, he's giving you a nice overlay to raise this turn. SB will be hardpressed to 3-bet on this scary board, so even an overpair type hand will likely just call.

The river overcall is interesting here. How often is UTG betting here with a Q, vs. a lower straight or two pair type hand? If his hand range is wide, then I'd raise to ensure I get 2BB in here, since there's no guarantee that the 2+2er is overcalling here. If he's only betting here with straight+, then the overcall is good to at least chop 2+2er's overcalling 1BB.
xCEO
08-18-2005, 01:06 PM
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HU, I'd probably just call down vs. the 2+2 so he can keep bluffing his overs. With the bad UTG though, he's giving you a nice overlay to raise this turn. SB will be hardpressed to 3-bet on this scary board, so even an overpair type hand will likely just call.

The river overcall is interesting here. How often is UTG betting here with a Q, vs. a lower straight or two pair type hand? If his hand range is wide, then I'd raise to ensure I get 2BB in here, since there's no guarantee that the 2+2er is overcalling here. If he's only betting here with straight+, then the overcall is good to at least chop 2+2er's overcalling 1BB.

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While I was playing the hand I was almost sure that the 2+2er had a big pair.



When I look at my hand now, I realy don't know why I didn't raise somewhere. I think raising the turn would be good.

I like your river analyses
uw_madtown
08-18-2005, 01:08 PM
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I think raising the turn would be good.

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Yup.
mscags
08-18-2005, 01:21 PM
I probably raise the turn since it has given you a ton of outs now.