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brazilio
08-18-2005, 03:03 AM
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Preflop: Hero is CO with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP1 folds, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (11.25 BB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP3 calls.

River: (15.25 BB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP3 folds, Hero calls, BB calls.

Final Pot: 18.25 BB

UTG is a buddy list 40% VP$IP LAP who tonight had been steady at 90% VP$IP pfr 25, pfa 1.23.

Odd situation here with the BB in, although he's just a terrible buddy list loose passive who folds a lot on the river. I think I can safely fold to UTG's 3-bet if BB coldcalls as his WtSD is somewhat low, and definitely if BB does a check/3-bet. HU I'd be raising UTG's river donkbet and calling his 3-bet.

Jake (The Snake)
08-18-2005, 03:12 AM
Are you saying you were confused between folding/calling or raising/calling on the river?

Anyway, I think you played it fine.

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HU I'd raise/call UTG's bet 100%

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What does this mean?

brazilio
08-18-2005, 03:14 AM
Sorry, I wasn't clear. I'm not folding at all unless BB shows aggression, just wondering about a value raise.

toss
08-18-2005, 03:19 AM
I don't really see much value in a river raise here.

Jake (The Snake)
08-18-2005, 03:19 AM
I don't like that. You say he is passive postflop (do you have his agg factor?). You will be seeing a ten more often than you think on the river. If he doesn't have a ten, he's not going to call your raise very often so I would just call.

Also, there is no chance a passive player is 3-betting this river with a hand you beat so I wouldn't call if you raise either.

brazilio
08-18-2005, 03:28 AM
Him being as donkish tonight is the reason I'm calling a 3-bet, otherwise I'd agree. He's relatively passive, but donkbets are awfully common, and he's so unpredictable tonight I'm uncomfortable folding to his 3-bet. postflop aggression is 1.45