Flop Bluff

[Danenania]

SB is tag and solid. About 25/18/2.9. UTG is a big lag preflop but quite weak and passive postflop. Button is a lag preflop and postflop.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif. MP posts a blind of $10.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP (poster) calls, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10 SB) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets...

[ZZZ]

I see the rationale, as SB probably has a T or pocket pair that he's capable of folding and button (most of the time) has nothing or a pair that he can fold.

I would never think to do this, but I guess it could be correct.

ZZZ

[Trix]

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[Danenania]

Lol. I did think about that post for a few seconds before acting. That's why I'm posting it to see if I broke my vow.

[Roy6]

I think this move has terrible risk/reward ratio.
You'll need to fire more if somebody has KJ, etc

[Danenania]

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I think this move has terrible risk/reward ratio.
You'll need to fire more if somebody has KJ, etc

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How often do you think it works? All I need is around 20%.

[Roy6]

Yes but you could do this FPS when your hand is not a trash like this (like if you had A9 in this hand). Your only chance here is to win uncontested.

[JrJordan]

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Yes but you could do this FPS when your hand is not a trash like this (like if you had A9 in this hand). Your only chance here is to win uncontested.

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A9 will have to play this nearly the same way. Only way he wins at a showdown is vs. SB's KJ that he can check through the river with position.

[Roy6]

I just wanted to say that I'd prefer a hand that has outs against a T. (3 outer pair + runner-runner straight in my example)

[Guy McSucker]

I don't think many people play a Q this way, and I think everybody thinks the same, so I don't think anyone folds a made hand here. You're going to have to hope they're drawing and that they don't hit their draw or any pair, and bet every street. Yuck.

Guy.

[Lmn55d]

you did

[Michael Davis]

Yeah, you're getting called down by any T here and probably even the AJ that takes two off looking for a gutshot and blanks out. Of course, you have outs against him.

-Michael

[Danenania]

Okay. Well, it worked, they both folded, but no one seems to like it. This isn't the kind of thing I ever do but it seemed so clear to me that SB had a T or PP (with a PP being much much more likely) that I decided I had the odds since Button would usually have nothing.

Actually it still makes sense to me, even though some posters I respect are disagreeing with me. I think it would probably work like 1/3 of the time and I only need 1/5. Hmm..