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Pudge714
08-17-2005, 12:32 AM
Since Pokertracker doesn't work with Full Tilt SNG's I was wondering what would be a sustainable ROI or ITM for the sng's. The levels are 6 minutes long and there are nine players we have 1500 chips to start, and the levels go
15/30
20/40
25/50
30/60
40/80
50/100
60/120
80/160
100/200
120/240
150/300
200/400
250/500
300/600
400/800
500/1000

Myst
08-17-2005, 12:33 AM
Play at Party if you like making money.

proell
08-17-2005, 01:32 AM
It would seem that a higher ROI would be sustainable, but damn those things take a long time! I was 4-tabling them for awhile trying to see if I could take advantage of their 100% bonus. Forget about it. The hourly rate is going to be worse no matter how good the ROI is.

Pudge714
08-17-2005, 11:05 AM
I am aware I can make more money on Party, but four tabling is out of the question because of my monitor, and I don't have a netteller account since I am underage so I can't transfer my money. I was curious to what a sustainable hourly rate for two tabling the sng's. Thanks for yor advice, but right now it is pretty unlikely that I will switch to Party, Empire, Eurobet, etc.

proell
08-17-2005, 12:46 PM
To answer your question, 20% is probably a decent figure to use (that is, if you have some skills, which is not clear at the moment).
2-tabling the 20's means you'll make between $4-$5 per "set". FTP tournaments take about an hour on average, so you'll be making about $4.50/hr.

Not bad if you're 12, though babysitting probably pays more with less variance.

Play to learn the game and to improve your skills. Hourly rate is not something you should worry about right now because you're going to be disappointed by it. Think of the time you put in as an education and an investment in your future, and if you earn a few bucks then think of it as a bonus.

Pudge714
08-17-2005, 10:58 PM
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To answer your question, 20% is probably a decent figure to use (that is, if you have some skills, which is not clear at the moment).
2-tabling the 20's means you'll make between $4-$5 per "set". FTP tournaments take about an hour on average, so you'll be making about $4.50/hr.

Not bad if you're 12, though babysitting probably pays more with less variance.

Play to learn the game and to improve your skills. Hourly rate is not something you should worry about right now because you're going to be disappointed by it. Think of the time you put in as an education and an investment in your future, and if you earn a few bucks then think of it as a bonus.

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For the record I am 16 turning 17 in two months, and I am playing the 30+3 and my the end of the month I will take a shot at the 50+5. So right now hourly rate is something I want to keep track of so I can look at my profits, notice when variance is kicking my ass or when I am playing poorly, so I really want to figure out statistically what I am capable of and what I should be doing. As for ROI of 20% I think that might be a little low, because 18 is a sustainable ROI on the 109's on party from what I hear. So the ROI on lower limits higher level SNG's should be higher.

dcarlc
08-17-2005, 11:03 PM
The answer to your question is in the FAQ's thread on the front page of this forum.

bigt439
08-17-2005, 11:47 PM
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I think that might be a little low, because 18 is a sustainable ROI on the 109's on party from what I hear. So the ROI on lower limits higher level SNG's should be higher.

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Yeah, but you're junk pudge so you'd be lucky to break even. Just kidding big guy, I'd say anything over 20% and you should be pretty happy. 25% if you're a baller. Just break into your brother's party account and transfer yourself money.

Pudge714
08-18-2005, 01:06 AM
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I think that might be a little low, because 18 is a sustainable ROI on the 109's on party from what I hear. So the ROI on lower limits higher level SNG's should be higher.

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Yeah, but you're junk pudge so you'd be lucky to break even. Just kidding big guy, I'd say anything over 20% and you should be pretty happy. 25% if you're a baller. Just break into your brother's party account and transfer yourself money.

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I would if I could