View Full Version : Shorthanded holdem can be madness
bicyclekick
08-16-2005, 08:44 PM
Since Aug. 5h it's been uhhh...a CRAZY run. It's what you get for playing loose-aggressive short handed.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/bicyclekick/aug5aug15.jpg
The whole month combined looks much more reasonable:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/bicyclekick/aug.jpg
sublime
08-16-2005, 09:01 PM
are you trying to tell me that short handed games against aggressive (some good) players are high variance? unless 500 other 2+2ers confirm this, i refuse to believe it!
witeknite
08-16-2005, 09:04 PM
I'll be the first.
WiteKnite
sublime
08-16-2005, 09:06 PM
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I'll be the first.
WiteKnite
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sure buddy. let me guess, you think the earth is round also?
baronzeus
08-16-2005, 09:06 PM
I posted a 13K graph like this in the 6max graph thread and one of the posters told me I wasn't a winner at 6max because my variance was so high. /images/graemlins/frown.gif
NH on the first 11K hands tho.
7ontheline
08-16-2005, 09:08 PM
Well then BK clearly sucks. His variance means he can't be a winning player. What a fish.
ChicagoTroy
08-16-2005, 09:10 PM
No 200+ BB downswing in 25K hands? I just had one, I hope they're rare.
sublime
08-16-2005, 09:10 PM
posted a 13K graph like this in the 6max graph thread and one of the posters told me I wasn't a winner at 6max because my variance was so high.
#1 the poster shouldnt say something like that after 13k hands
#2 the games BK plays in (2000/4000 at last check) have more variace in them anyways, so comparing his STD to yours (or mine) doesnt mean much.
baronzeus
08-16-2005, 09:12 PM
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posted a 13K graph like this in the 6max graph thread and one of the posters told me I wasn't a winner at 6max because my variance was so high.
#1 the poster shouldnt say something like that after 13k hands
#2 the games BK plays in (2000/4000 at last check) have more variace in them anyways, so comparing his STD to yours (or mine) doesnt mean much.
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I was really, really joking. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif
SomethingClever
08-16-2005, 09:44 PM
BK: Teach me.
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3155/fawk7ti.jpg
kahntrutahn
08-16-2005, 10:52 PM
That poster told you it was less likely you were a big winner...
peachy
08-16-2005, 11:09 PM
there is no such thing as variance...or large downswings...ur all on crack
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/1438/roar0wy.th.png (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=roar0wy.png)
Jeff W
08-16-2005, 11:34 PM
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ur all on crack
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http://www.crackwhoreconfessions.com/images/tina2_crack_whore.jpg
OK I'm probably just embarassing myself, but is there really a 2000/4000 game online somewhere? I didn't think it got bigger than 300/600.
bicyclekick
08-16-2005, 11:41 PM
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OK I'm probably just embarassing myself, but is there really a 2000/4000 game online somewhere? I didn't think it got bigger than 300/600.
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Yeah he's just trying to be funny. I don't even play 300/600 right now.
sublime
08-17-2005, 12:25 AM
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posted a 13K graph like this in the 6max graph thread and one of the posters told me I wasn't a winner at 6max because my variance was so high.
#1 the poster shouldnt say something like that after 13k hands
#2 the games BK plays in (2000/4000 at last check) have more variace in them anyways, so comparing his STD to yours (or mine) doesnt mean much.
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I was really, really joking. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif
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yeah, but i was also.
TheDelChop
08-17-2005, 12:59 AM
Varience is for pussies.
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/9441/graph5wr.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Victor
08-17-2005, 03:21 PM
just got this cool graph thingy and figured i would throw these in here.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/cvnpoka/510shortgraph.jpg http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/cvnpoka/1020shortgraph.jpg http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/cvnpoka/510and1020graph.jpg
baronzeus
08-17-2005, 03:23 PM
Did you want to kill yourself during that 30K, 400BB downswing?
sammy_g
08-17-2005, 03:30 PM
I'm always surprised when someone posts their 5/10 and 10/20 win rates and they're always pretty close.
I have 100k hands at 5/10 and 45k hands at 10/20, and there is a 3BB/100 disparity in my win rates between these limits.
[censored] variance.
Edit: Man, that is one brutal downswing, Victor.
Victor
08-17-2005, 03:48 PM
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Did you want to kill yourself during that 30K, 400BB downswing?
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that downswing started when i tried to move up to 10-20 and got crushed. then i moved back to 5-10 and got crushed.
bitchin (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=&Number=2158011&page=&view =&sb=5&o=&fpart=)
sublime
08-17-2005, 03:55 PM
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Did you want to kill yourself during that 30K, 400BB downswing?
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that downswing started when i tried to move up to 10-20 and got crushed. then i moved back to 5-10 and got crushed.
bitchin (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=&Number=2158011&page=&view =&sb=5&o=&fpart=)
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cool to see those graphs. i consider you in my area of skill (albeit better then me) and always value what you have to say. its nice to see somebody i look up to is in the same neighborhood of my my win rates (my sample sizes are smaller though) at various levels.
baronzeus
08-17-2005, 03:56 PM
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Did you want to kill yourself during that 30K, 400BB downswing?
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that downswing started when i tried to move up to 10-20 and got crushed. then i moved back to 5-10 and got crushed.
bitchin (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=&Number=2158011&page=&view =&sb=5&o=&fpart=)
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Interesting. During my next 15K breakeven/losing streak, I'll think of you and say "At least it's not as bad as victor."
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