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GooperMC
08-16-2005, 09:51 AM
I have A236 rainbow in LP. Bunch of limpers, I raise, bunch of callers.

Flop is 45T rainbow EP pots, 2 callers, I re-pot, EP goes all in, folds to me, I call.

Turn is a 8, river is a 3 and I am pretty happy about how everything went down until I see my opponents hand and realize that I was a 2:1 dog on the flop.

I didn't realize that I could be that big a dog with the nut low draw and that large of a wrap. Can you guys guess what he was playing?

DRKEVDC
08-16-2005, 10:24 AM
A2TT, he has the top set and figures he is quatering you on the low.

sy_or_bust
08-16-2005, 10:28 AM
Villain holds 9876.

DRKEVDC
08-16-2005, 10:32 AM
You think that he pots with 9876?

GooperMC
08-16-2005, 10:35 AM
Even top set + nut low draw doesn't beat me very badly (I have a ton of str8 outs the 2 A's and 2 2's left in the deck allow me to scoop):

Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 820 enumerated boards containing 5s 4c Td
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
As 2c 3d 6h 112 357 463 0 142 0 425 0.434
Ts Ac 2d Th 253 463 357 0 0 44 425 0.566

shakingspear
08-16-2005, 10:37 AM
A267

But I generally have no clue what I'm talking about.

GooperMC
08-16-2005, 10:39 AM
I should have added to the original post that villain was a decently tight player and I think that he played it well on every street.

Good guess though.

GooperMC
08-16-2005, 10:45 AM
Good guess, but against A267 I am around 1.5:1

Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 820 enumerated boards containing 5s 4c Td
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
3d 2d Ah 6h 141 284 527 9 142 0 378 0.387
2s 6c Ad 7h 285 527 284 9 0 142 378 0.613

My opponent actually had me in worse shape (around 2.15:1)

lonn19
08-16-2005, 11:51 AM
3467

dcasper70
08-16-2005, 12:08 PM
not A2TT, 6789, or A267?
I'd lean towards AA23 or A223, but with his pf limp/call...

Wintermute
08-16-2005, 12:09 PM
Worst situation I can think of is when he has two backdoor flush draws and a pair that kills some of your outs to go with low cards that chop with yours, like A223 or A233. But I don't think it could be worse than 2:1.

Ribbo
08-16-2005, 12:36 PM
The guy with no pair and an ace is way ahead of the guy with no pair and 9 high lol. No, 9876 is no good here.

Ribbo
08-16-2005, 12:40 PM
If he is blocking your wheel cards you're in trouble, so A233 would be the one I pick here. There being no threes in the deck really screw up all your straight wraps, and his pair means you can't hit a higher pair at any point. Since the 6 means you chop.
All you are left with is a 7 to quarter him.

GooperMC
08-16-2005, 01:08 PM
Playing 3467 for a raise wouldn't be considered decently tight.

GooperMC
08-16-2005, 01:14 PM
Against AA23 with 2 backdoor draws:
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 820 enumerated boards containing 5s 4c Td
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
Ah 6h 3h 2h 0 248 463 109 0 0 520 0.343
As 3s Ad 2d 300 463 248 109 0 0 520 0.657

Against A223 and A233 with 2 backdoor draws:
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 820 enumerated boards containing 5s 4c Td
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
Ah 6h 3h 2h 0 216 463 141 0 0 520 0.333
As 3s 3d 2d 300 463 216 141 0 0 520 0.667

Against ??? with 2 backdoor draws:
Ah 6h 3h 2h 0 215 545 60 0 0 520 0.308
?? ?? ?? ?? 300 545 215 60 0 0 520 0.692

dcasper70
08-16-2005, 01:36 PM
AA22
AA33

...If I throw enough crap against the wall, somethings gotta stick....

Wintermute
08-16-2005, 01:38 PM
[ QUOTE ]
AA22
AA33

...If I throw enough crap against the wall, somethings gotta stick....

[/ QUOTE ]

Here's a tip for you dcasper. TWO DIMES (http://www.twodimes.net/poker/)

dcasper70
08-16-2005, 01:41 PM
No $hit Winter, unfortunately some of us work and they have these nasty little things called network admins and firewalls....

Why I can get here still amazes me.

oops, forgot the smiley /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Wintermute
08-16-2005, 01:47 PM
[ QUOTE ]
No $hit Winter, unfortunately some of us work

[/ QUOTE ]

You think I don't work? If your company blocks two dimes but not 2+2, that's amazing.

dcasper70
08-16-2005, 01:55 PM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
No $hit Winter, unfortunately some of us work

[/ QUOTE ]

You think I don't work? If your company blocks two dimes but not 2+2, that's amazing.

[/ QUOTE ]

After seeing the PTO screenshot you put up a few weeks ago showing mad winnings, I assumed...
My bad.

But yeah, these website restrictions are oddly random.


Run AA22 and AA33 through TWO DIMES for me /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Wintermute
08-16-2005, 02:14 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Run AA22 and AA33 through TWO DIMES for me /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 820 enumerated boards containing 4c 5d Th
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
As 6c 3d 2h 55 366 454 0 73 0 447 0.404
Ac 2c Ad 2d 300 454 366 0 0 22 447 0.596

Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 820 enumerated boards containing 4c 5d Th
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
As 6c 2d 3h 257 366 454 0 403 0 117 0.505
Ac 3c Ad 3d 300 454 366 0 0 352 117 0.495

dcasper70
08-16-2005, 02:27 PM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Run AA22 and AA33 through TWO DIMES for me /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 820 enumerated boards containing 4c 5d Th
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
As 6c 3d 2h 55 366 454 0 73 0 447 0.404
Ac 2c Ad 2d 300 454 366 0 0 22 447 0.596

Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 820 enumerated boards containing 4c 5d Th
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
As 6c 2d 3h 257 366 454 0 403 0 117 0.505
Ac 3c Ad 3d 300 454 366 0 0 352 117 0.495

[/ QUOTE ]

crap. no wonder I suck....

Wintermute
08-16-2005, 04:14 PM
Well, WTF Goop? Seems like everyone threw in the towel. What is the magic hand?

GooperMC
08-16-2005, 04:18 PM
A237. He had me outkicked!