20+2 flop & postflop play problems

[Karaja]

1. 15\30 Hero have T860 AKo

UTG+2 T2280 raise 60, Hero call BTN call
Flop: (A5s)2 (Hero have backflushdraw with his K)
UTG+2 check Hero bet 150, fold, call
Turn: (8s) UTG+2 check, Hero check (What do you think about this check&)
River (6o) UTG+2 Bet 500 Hero??? (Hero T650 left)

2. 250\500 3 Players Hero is on BB with 32o & T1600
SB T1400 BTN T5000

Call call check

Flop: (JTs)2 all check
Turn: 3s
MB bets 500 Hero ???

Thank you for your comments.

[Page Jacobson]

Hand #1 - I think you've got him. I'd call. He raised preflop then checked called the flop. You showed weakness on the turn and he's trying to buy the pot on the river. I see him with a weaker K or pocket pair like Q's or J's.

Hand #2 - Again I think you have the best hand. Two pair is a big hand here. I'd call.

I meant weaker A in hand #1

[bmxreed36]

I think you played the first hand fine, I'd call the river bet. Second hand, I'd push over the top. The 3 is unlikely to have helped the other too, so the only fear is if he slowplayed a set or two pair on the flop.

[lastchance]

I think not moving all-in in both cases is terrible.

[Karaja]

OK But What will you do in either case.

I'll post actual hands later.

[tigerite]

Hand 1: Turn check is exactly the right move, and pretty sure you have to push the river.

Hand 2: I think you're saying there's 3 to the flush now, right? Ugh. The problem is so many cards can come to kill your hand on the river because it's bottom two. Plus there's always the 'don't go broke in an unraised pot' argument. Not to mention the possibility you're very far behind. It's really got to be read dependent this one.

[Karaja]

1. UTG +2 is a big stack and an original raiser so his check call on the flop looks rather suspicious. I thought He couldn't have just a pair of Aces because he would have bet with an Ace and a small kicker and probably check raised with an Ace and a strong kicker. SoHe Might have a flush draw or be slowplaying a set or two pairs including Aces. In either last 2 cases we are far behind and the turn card Have just completed his Flush draw. So you have still T650 to play so I Folded this on the river. Actually I Don't know my oponents hand but would apreciate any comments on this analysis.

2. The main problem not with the SB but with the BTN Who has T5000 called preflop and checked on the Flop From the last position!!! is he an altruist ???

Actually I pushed BTN Pushed too & turned over JT

[lastchance]

1. This line is definitely playable, but then, so is betting the turn. Gotta push river though.

2. Did you take a look at the pot size and blinds? I would have pushed the flop, considering how badly you want to take this pot down.

[tigerite]

Good point. With the blinds, pot and your stack there's no way in hell you can fold this.