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08-16-2005, 12:08 AM
Mostly boring and standard but I want to check up on my turn decision.

Opponent is 35/16/2.2/40 over 1k hands and has a fairly wide opening range. I think there's zero change of him folding a Q on the turn but may fold a smaller pp.

Totally boring and standard?

Ultimate Bet 15/30 Hold'em (5 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP calls.

Flop: (6.66 SB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls.

Turn: (4.33 BB) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls.

River: (6.33 BB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks with intention of calling.

Final Pot: 6.33 BB
KidPokerX
08-16-2005, 12:17 AM
I dunno, looks failry standard although I could argue playing this differently - as in not 3-betting PF.

Curious what others have to say.
ZBTHorton
08-16-2005, 12:20 AM
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I dunno, looks failry standard although I could argue playing this differently - as in not 3-betting PF.

Curious what others have to say.

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You don't 3 bet 5 handed??
MrTeddyKGB
08-16-2005, 12:23 AM
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I dunno, looks failry standard although I could argue playing this differently - as in not 3-betting PF.

Curious what others have to say.

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I would 3-bet. looks standard to me. might bet river dep on opp.
08-16-2005, 12:25 AM
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I dunno, looks failry standard although I could argue playing this differently - as in not 3-betting PF.

Curious what others have to say.

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Against this guy I felt very comfortable 3 betting AJ 5 handed.
08-16-2005, 12:28 AM
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I dunno, looks failry standard although I could argue playing this differently - as in not 3-betting PF.

Curious what others have to say.

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I would 3-bet. looks standard to me. might bet river dep on opp.

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I think betting the river is bad because I fold anything I beat get raised by anything I don't, and only get value when another A high folds.
MrTeddyKGB
08-16-2005, 12:32 AM
I doubt very much that you are beat. Some agg opp will bluff raise you on the end though as well as pay off with jack high.
KidPokerX
08-16-2005, 12:38 AM
No, I will usually 3-bet AJo on the BB as well. I am not saying it is a wrong play, just that you should always keep in mind the other possibilities.
08-16-2005, 12:47 AM
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I doubt very much that you are beat. Some agg opp will bluff raise you on the end though as well as pay off with jack high.

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I don't think I've grown the cohones to bet call this river yet /images/graemlins/grin.gif
wackjob
08-16-2005, 02:15 AM
I think a check/call river is ok. I think you are looking at a mid PP or busted draw here many times.
SteveGriff
08-16-2005, 09:37 AM
Seems fine to me. I'd play it the same way. Hopefully that Queen has countefited his smaller PP or something...

Steve Griff
08-16-2005, 10:06 AM
Thanks for the replies everyon...I check called and he had AT so we split.

Neko
krishanleong
08-16-2005, 10:21 AM
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Thanks for the replies everyon...I check called and he had AT so we split.

Neko

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How about a river cr?

Krishan
spydog
08-16-2005, 10:22 AM
I doubt he is folding a small pocket pair on the turn. If he was going to fold the pocket pair then he would have done so on the flop. So, he's either 1) drawing 2) ahead of you 3) putting on a move. I check-call in this spot and check-call most rivers.
08-16-2005, 11:30 AM
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Thanks for the replies everyon...I check called and he had AT so we split.

Neko

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How about a river cr?

Krishan

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Interesting option I hadn't really considered. This guy was probably capable of laying down the ace to a c/r here and I don't think he'll 3 bet without a king. I like it.
08-16-2005, 11:35 AM
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I doubt he is folding a small pocket pair on the turn. If he was going to fold the pocket pair then he would have done so on the flop. So, he's either 1) drawing 2) ahead of you 3) putting on a move. I check-call in this spot and check-call most rivers.

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Yeah, I'm definitely open to considering this line.