Shame post to punish myself for bad play (LC)

[DeathDonkey]

I warned you about the low content. After the hand the bad LAG accused me and the 2+2er of collusion, which I feel bad for the 2+2er for having some guy mad at him for my crappy play.

-DeathDonkey

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP (good 2+2er)/ 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB (bad big LAG)/ calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
bad big LAG checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">good 2+2er bets</font>, bad big LAG calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
bad big LAG checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">good 2+2er bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">bad big LAG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">good 2+2er caps</font>, bad big LAG folds, Hero calls.

River: (16.25 BB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">good 2+2er bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 17.25 BB

[ArturiusX]

That board really sucks ot make that play, but you knew that /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[sthief09]

I don't care that the idiot accused me of collusion. it's actually not such a bad play. looking at it, it does kinda look like collusion though.

I would like your play a lot better if you had A high with no draw. as it stands now I think you have a pretty good chance of pushing me off AA, KK, JJ, TT, or 99. too bad I had a boat. I wonder if I actually would've folded that. I tend to give people too much credit in those spots so there's a good chance. if you had 99, I think that's expert

I like my 32s hand though /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Stack]

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I like my 32s hand though


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Can we see it?

[sthief09]

since you asked...

standard but fun


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Preflop: Hero is BB with 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP calls, CO folds, SB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP folds, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls.

River: (13 BB) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 15 BB

[PokerBob]

how can bad big LAG be both BB and UTG?

[Stack]

Excellent.

[DeathDonkey]

I was UTG with J /images/graemlins/club.gifJ /images/graemlins/spade.gif this hand, I think I should have folded the river now. You played this hand really freaking good.

-DeathDonkey

[DeathDonkey]

Thanks Josh as this was pretty much my thought process during the hand, I mean you pretty much had to put me on at least a Queen (I hoped). I think now though that when you cap the turn I am drawing dead often enough I should fold right there? Anyway this play just stuck out in a bad session but I think I shouldn't have pulled such a move with just the draw.

-DeathDonkey

[oreogod]

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I was UTG with J /images/graemlins/club.gifJ /images/graemlins/spade.gif this hand, I think I should have folded the river now. You played this hand really freaking good.

-DeathDonkey

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I think you played your JJ w/ /images/graemlins/club.gif really well to. I fold the river though.

Although, I would expect w/ the donk bet, he was going to take a bet/3-bet line here.

[RunDownHouse]

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Although, I would expect w/ the donk bet, he was going to take a bet/3-bet line here.

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If I knew who it was donking, I'd definitely be expecting bet/3bet.

[oreogod]

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Although, I would expect w/ the donk bet, he was going to take a bet/3-bet line here.

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If I knew who it was donking, I'd definitely be expecting bet/3bet.

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Well, yeah thats what I mean. But what do u do w/ JJ here in this situation if u know he wants to 3-bet it?

[RunDownHouse]

I raise anyways, because he might be overplaying his pair, I might improve, and he might just be plain donking.

[DeathDonkey]

I didn't mind getting everyone to fold but him and hoping I had outs. I didn't think he had a monster really but I realized I was protecting his better hand and my 2nd best, but I was very happy to have 17 outs, just would have preferred to hit one.

-DeathDonkey

[sthief09]

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Although, I would expect w/ the donk bet, he was going to take a bet/3-bet line here.

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If I knew who it was donking, I'd definitely be expecting bet/3bet.

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my bet was to clear the field out because of the 3 clubs. I thought there was a good chance he had an overpair with no club and could blow out all the medium small ones. if not, I got 2 pair anyway. it wasn't like an I OWNED YOU bet-3bet. I bet to isolate, and I 3-bet because I knew what he had.

he's gotta pay off on the river and he absolutely has to raise the turn.