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baronzeus
08-15-2005, 08:33 PM
Willluck is button

He knows who I am and I know who he is.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds, Button calls.

Turn: (5.16 BB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: (13.16 BB) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>


How's this line? Guess our cards
DMBFan23
08-15-2005, 08:38 PM
his most obvious hand is 99, but I dont think he has that or you wouldn't have posted this.

I think you overplayed the river
baronzeus
08-15-2005, 08:38 PM
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his most obvious hand is 99, but I dont think he has that or you wouldn't have posted this.

I think you overplayed the river

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I was deciding between bet/call and bet/3bet.

Oh and check/raise
DMBFan23
08-15-2005, 08:40 PM
yeha I just dont think he raises the river with anything except 99 if you guys are playing serious, not after all that turn action.
wheelz
08-15-2005, 08:40 PM
I'd bet-3 bet the flop, don't want to check raise him and knock out UTG. I'm going to take a wild guess and say you have 77, I would expect him to have 99 but it looks like you won so I guess he has an overplayed AA.
baronzeus
08-15-2005, 08:42 PM
I think he plays 66, T8s, and possibly AA with the same line right?

BTW, UTG was an incredibly weak player. Folded when he should call, called when he should fold, hardly ever raised.
jba
08-15-2005, 08:44 PM
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his most obvious hand is 99, but I dont think he has that or you wouldn't have posted this.

I think you overplayed the river

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I was deciding between bet/call and bet/3bet.

Oh and check/raise

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I think three bets going in here is a bad thing for your hand. bet/call is good I think.
wheelz
08-15-2005, 08:45 PM
Right, 66...

I wouldn't expect him to play T8s after a limper, and he might 3-bet the flop with that.
baronzeus
08-15-2005, 08:53 PM
Hmm so B/3B is better to keep in the limper? For some reason when I saw this flop I wanted him out. That's probably monsters under the bed.

Yeah, Willluck is pretty tight, he would possibly raise T8s on the button there, but it's not as likely as 66, 99, or AA for sure. I guess I overplayed a little bit. Oh well.
DMBFan23
08-15-2005, 08:53 PM
I don't think he should be raising the river with T8s or AA. I will admit I didn't think of 66, which could call your flop raise becase the board is SO drawy.
Willluck
08-15-2005, 09:05 PM
I had the set of 9s.

I was curious about my flop play, because this is totally standard for me, but zeus said I should have 3-bet it.

I suppose I could mix it up and do like 80% wait till the turn and 20% 3-bet the flop.

What do you guy's think?
baronzeus
08-15-2005, 09:07 PM
After what Wheelz said about my play, I think calling is just fine, possibly better. But if I raise to try to knock out UTG, I think it makes it clear that I have a hand that I like, a lot. I don't know.
donger
08-15-2005, 09:12 PM
I usually just flat call the flop and raise the turn. The flop CR is usually a one-two punch, so you have a great chance of getting two bets in on the turn.
DMBFan23
08-15-2005, 09:16 PM
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I had the set of 9s.

I was curious about my flop play, because this is totally standard for me, but zeus said I should have 3-bet it.

I suppose I could mix it up and do like 80% wait till the turn and 20% 3-bet the flop.

What do you guy's think?

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if UTG stayed in I think three betting is the better play, if HU I like mixing it up with a slight preference for waiting to raise the turn
jason_t
08-15-2005, 09:34 PM
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You have 77 (duh), he has 99. You both messed up the flop and you overplayed the river.
baronzeus
08-15-2005, 09:35 PM
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You have 77 (duh), he has 99. You both messed up the flop and you overplayed the river.

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Right, I probably should have just called.

At least I didn't have jack high though.

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wheelz
08-15-2005, 09:36 PM
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Hmm so B/3B is better to keep in the limper?

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Yeah, if you face him with two cold he'll likely get out of the way without a hand. If you bet, he may decide to peel for one bet with his overcards or whatever, then the button raises and you 3-bet, now he might decide the pot's too big and call two more as well...

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For some reason when I saw this flop I wanted him out.

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Any hand you want out on this flop is calling 2 cold anyways
Willluck
08-15-2005, 09:36 PM
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How's this line? Guess our cards


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You have 77 (duh), he has 99. You both messed up the flop and you overplayed the river.

[/ QUOTE ] I'm assuming you missed this. (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&amp;Number=3151946&amp;page=0&amp;view=c ollapsed&amp;sb=5&amp;o=14&amp;vc=1)
jason_t
08-15-2005, 09:37 PM
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Hmm so B/3B is better to keep in the limper?

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Yes.

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For some reason when I saw this flop I wanted him out.

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Those hands aren't going anywhere.
jason_t
08-15-2005, 09:38 PM
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How's this line? Guess our cards


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You have 77 (duh), he has 99. You both messed up the flop and you overplayed the river.

[/ QUOTE ] I'm assuming you missed this. (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&amp;Number=3151946&amp;page=0&amp;view=c ollapsed&amp;sb=5&amp;o=14&amp;vc=1)

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Yeah, replied first then started reading through the thread.

Nice flop for you. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Willluck
08-15-2005, 09:55 PM
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How's this line? Guess our cards


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You have 77 (duh), he has 99. You both messed up the flop and you overplayed the river.

[/ QUOTE ] I'm assuming you missed this. (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&amp;Number=3151946&amp;page=0&amp;view=c ollapsed&amp;sb=5&amp;o=14&amp;vc=1)

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Yeah, replied first then started reading through the thread.

Nice flop for you. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[/ QUOTE ]Yeah, it was pretty good. So, you 3-bet the flop? Please explain your reasoning.