Is Hit & Run wrong if you often bleed off a lead?

[steamboatin]

Example;

Party 2-4 Bad Beat Jackpot tables.

I sit with $100, play good poker up to $150 and then bleed down to about $50. sometimes I tighten up and get back a head and sometimes I don't.

Unless the table is a complete fish pond, how bad is it to take the money and switch tables?

[jason_t]

What?

[hicherbie]

i concur.

[peterchi]

Tell me when a hit&run is ever right, first.

[brazilio]

I always play well or badly depending on how big my stacks are too. Like, if I sit at a 3/6 table with 300 dollars, I'm going to lose it all. But, if I sit at a 3/6 table with 50 dollars, I bloat up to at least 400.

[TheHammer24]

It all depends on the structure of the table and how you lost your money. If you're getting outplayed then you should leave.

If you are asking about the ethics of a hit run, i never think a hit and run is wrong. It's not like you won't be able to find another table if the hit and runner leaves. It's his money let him go.

[BWebb]

If you aren't a favorite on the table you should leave. How much you are up or down should not be a consideration.

[peterchi]

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It all depends on the structure of the table and how you lost your money. If you're getting outplayed then you should leave.

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Right, but then it's not a hit&run; it's table selection.

[Evan]

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if I sit at a 3/6 table with 300 dollars, I'm going to lose it all. But, if I sit at a 3/6 table with 50 dollars, I bloat up to at least 400.

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SUHWEET

[callmedonnie]

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if I sit at a 3/6 table with 300 dollars, I'm going to lose it all. But, if I sit at a 3/6 table with 50 dollars, I bloat up to at least 400.

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SUHWEET

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Isn't that everyone's strategy? Sit down w/ insufficient amount of chips and run a table over. Only problem is, when you get it to 400, why don't you lose it like you do the 300?

[Piiop]

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Isn't that everyone's strategy? Sit down w/ insufficient amount of chips and run a table over. Only problem is, when you get it to 400, why don't you lose it like you do the 300?

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That's why I stop at 396. Poker is easy.

[peterchi]

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Isn't that everyone's strategy? Sit down w/ insufficient amount of chips and run a table over. Only problem is, when you get it to 400, why don't you lose it like you do the 300?

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That's why I stop at 396. Poker is easy.

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Except if you're at about $350 and the pot gets too big, you gotta open-fold your set on the river. That's the tricky part still.

[steamboatin]

Seriously, if you discover that you loosen up/call to much after winning a little and end up giving back your win. Does it make sense to change tables while you work on your leak?

[thirddan]

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Seriously, if you discover that you loosen up/call to much after winning a little and end up giving back your win. Does it make sense to change tables while you work on your leak?

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hit and run is not working on your leak, its avoiding it...assuming you are a winning player and that the table is profitable, leaving just cuz you won a hand or two doesn't make any sense, you are only costing yourself money...rather than find some simple way to avoid improving, why not just stay at the table and play well rather than spewing? you can't work to fix the leak if you always avoid that situation that causes it...

[SomethingClever]

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Example;

Party 2-4 Bad Beat Jackpot tables.

I sit with $100, play good poker up to $150 and then bleed down to about $50. sometimes I tighten up and get back a head and sometimes I don't.

Unless the table is a complete fish pond, how bad is it to take the money and switch tables?

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Unless the quality of your play is changing, there's no point in leaving, is there?

Only you can tell for yourself if you're playing worse when you get ahead.

[ArturiusX]

I heard you can make a lot of money if you play roulette by betting one dollar on black, then if you lose, doubling your bets until you win.

Easy money, so much better than being a sucker and just putting chips around.

[mtdoak]

If your playing the Party 2/4 BBJ tables....you need to get up and leave right then. The rake with the extra .50/hand will kill you. If you bleed off a lead, you need to figure out why and fix the problem. Leaving a good table early is -EV. If you feel that its not a good table and you just got lucky, get your chips and find a good table. Online this is easy to do, in real life, this is much harder.

It totally depends on your motivation to play poker.

-If you are a recreational player and you don't take the game seriously, then there is nothing wrong with a "hit & run", or a "stop loss" type of strategy for managing your poker bankroll.

-If you're serious about poker and want to improve your results (I believe you are because you found this site) then a "hit & run" strategy is never correct.

Hit and run is based on short term results, rather than the process of applying skills over the long run.

[baronzeus]

I was playing some douche on prima HU 3/6. After hitting two runner runnre straights to my top set and two pair and taking 20BB off of me he stood up and left. What a douche. H&R ppl are douches.

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[Justin A]

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I heard you can make a lot of money if you play roulette by betting one dollar on black, then if you lose, doubling your bets until you win.

Easy money, so much better than being a sucker and just putting chips around.

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The problem with this is that long streaks of red sometimes occur. So the correct strategy is actually switching colors on each spin. When was the last time you saw a long streak of red-black-red-black occur?

[hicherbie]

coughed on my chips. good work sir.

[soweak.]

You're just tilting in the opposite emotional direction.

many players tilt when they're running bad, however the opposite can happen (I used to have this problem). What I do now is if I get up a ridiculous amount (I usually buyin for 20-25BB, so lets say I've doubled up in a short amount of time, I will sit out, get a drink, calm down and continue.

If the table fills up with TAGs and all the fish bust, that's not a hit and run, that's just practicing good game selection. Oftentimes, I will take a hit and leave for the same reasons.

Constantly leaving when you get up can hurt you as you may be missing out on more profit because you fear losing what you've already made.

Try increasing your buyin and see if that helps, also take a walk when you hit a rush.

[belloc]

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I heard you can make a lot of money if you play roulette by betting one dollar on black, then if you lose, doubling your bets until you win.

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This (I think it's called the Martingale betting system) is cute in theory, and can work in the short term. But over time, there are a few problems. You have to have a bankroll big enough to cover the possible streaks, and even if you do, the casinos impose table limits. Example: if your initial bet is $100 on black, and the table has a $10000 limit, you're in big trouble when you get 8 reds in a row. This won't happen often, but if you're using this system over the long run, it will happen.

Also, like everything in roulette, the greens (0 and 00) will catch up with you here, too.

[Alex/Mugaaz]

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I heard you can make a lot of money if you play roulette by betting one dollar on black, then if you lose, doubling your bets until you win.

Easy money, so much better than being a sucker and just putting chips around.

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The problem with this is that long streaks of red sometimes occur. So the correct strategy is actually switching colors on each spin. When was the last time you saw a long streak of red-black-red-black occur?

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I'd agree with this, but Wesley Snipes said to always bet on black.....he couldn't be wrong.

[brazilio]

Dude, it's a joke.