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TT_fold
08-15-2005, 05:12 PM
This was my most interesting bubble of the summer... lots of dynamics at play.

First, on hand #2540328578, I think I may have over-applied the gap concept by folding AJs to an aggressive button-raiser.

Moreover, on hand #2540341835, I'm the #2 stack with Q6o UTG (big stack on the BB). I have only 3.5x BB, but I still think my push is correct, since the big stack appears to know what he's doing. He'll fold so that he can steal on the next hand, so I need to steal on this hand in order to keep pace.

Feel free to comment on any of the hands... I feel that with the huge blinds and relative position of the stacks, this tournament cannot be solved as easily with "traditional" tools such as ICM or SNGPT.
wonwith27off folds.
Dorian_G raises [1200].
>You have options at Table 11055 Table!.
SpacemanBryc folds.
Dorian_G does not show cards.
Dorian_G wins 1800 chips
Game #2540328578 starts.

#Game No : 2540328578
***** Hand History for Game 2540328578 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:14865028 Level:8 Blinds(200/400) - Monday, August 15, 16:53:00 EDT 2005
Table Table 12377 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 5: SpacemanBryc ( $1930 )
Seat 6: samia215 ( $1800 )
Seat 9: wonwith27off ( $2280 )
Seat 1: Dorian_G ( $3990 )
Trny:14865028 Level:8
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SpacemanBryc [ Jh Ah ]
wonwith27off folds.
Dorian_G raises [1900].
SpacemanBryc folds.
samia215 folds.
Dorian_G does not show cards.
Dorian_G wins 2500 chips
Game #2540330437 starts.

#Game No : 2540330437
***** Hand History for Game 2540330437 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:14865028 Level:8 Blinds(200/400) - Monday, August 15, 16:53:23 EDT 2005
Table Table 12377 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 5: SpacemanBryc ( $1730 )
Seat 6: samia215 ( $1400 )
Seat 9: wonwith27off ( $2280 )
Seat 1: Dorian_G ( $4590 )
Trny:14865028 Level:8
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SpacemanBryc [ 2s 5s ]
Dorian_G folds.
>You have options at Table 11055 Table!.
SpacemanBryc folds.
samia215 is all-In [1200]
wonwith27off: brunsons hand
Dorian_G: lol
wonwith27off: lol
wonwith27off folds.
samia215 does not show cards.
samia215 wins 1800 chips
Game #2540333560 starts.

#Game No : 2540333560
***** Hand History for Game 2540333560 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:14865028 Level:8 Blinds(200/400) - Monday, August 15, 16:54:02 EDT 2005
Table Table 12377 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 5: SpacemanBryc ( $1730 )
Seat 6: samia215 ( $1800 )
Seat 9: wonwith27off ( $1880 )
Seat 1: Dorian_G ( $4590 )
Trny:14865028 Level:8
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SpacemanBryc [ Ad 4s ]
>You have options at Table 11055 Table!.
SpacemanBryc is all-In [1730]
samia215 folds.
wonwith27off: XXXXXXXXXXs many hands
wonwith27off folds.
Dorian_G folds.
SpacemanBryc does not show cards.
SpacemanBryc wins 2330 chips
>You have options at Table 11055 Table!.
G U S ha n s en's
Game #2540336216 starts.

#Game No : 2540336216
***** Hand History for Game 2540336216 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:14865028 Level:8 Blinds(200/400) - Monday, August 15, 16:54:35 EDT 2005
Table Table 12377 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 5: SpacemanBryc ( $2330 )
Seat 6: samia215 ( $1800 )
Seat 9: wonwith27off ( $1680 )
Seat 1: Dorian_G ( $4190 )
Trny:14865028 Level:8
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SpacemanBryc [ 3d As ]
samia215 folds.
wonwith27off folds.
Dorian_G calls [200].
SpacemanBryc checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8h, 3s, Ts ]
Dorian_G bets [400].
wonwith27off: why cant u spell his name on here?
SpacemanBryc folds.
Dorian_G shows [ 8s, 9s ] a pair of eights.
Dorian_G wins 1200 chips from the main pot with a pair of eights.
you mean G U S
Game #2540338673 starts.

#Game No : 2540338673
***** Hand History for Game 2540338673 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:14865028 Level:8 Blinds(200/400) - Monday, August 15, 16:55:05 EDT 2005
Table Table 12377 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 5: SpacemanBryc ( $1930 )
Seat 6: samia215 ( $1800 )
Seat 9: wonwith27off ( $1680 )
Seat 1: Dorian_G ( $4590 )
Trny:14865028 Level:8
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SpacemanBryc [ Td Kc ]
wonwith27off: yeah
SpacemanBryc: Han
SpacemanBryc: sen
wonwith27off is all-In [1680]
Dorian_G folds.
SpacemanBryc folds.
samia215 folds.
wonwith27off does not show cards.
wonwith27off wins 2280 chips
yep
Game #2540340221 starts.

#Game No : 2540340221
***** Hand History for Game 2540340221 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:14865028 Level:9 Blinds(250/500) - Monday, August 15, 16:55:25 EDT 2005
Table Table 12377 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 5: SpacemanBryc ( $1730 )
Seat 6: samia215 ( $1400 )
Seat 9: wonwith27off ( $2280 )
Seat 1: Dorian_G ( $4590 )
Trny:14865028 Level:9
Blinds(250/500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SpacemanBryc [ 4d 4h ]
wonwith27off: gus
Dorian_G raises [1000].
SpacemanBryc folds.
samia215 folds.
wonwith27off folds.
Dorian_G does not show cards.
Dorian_G wins 1750 chips
Game #2540341835 starts.

#Game No : 2540341835
***** Hand History for Game 2540341835 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:14865028 Level:9 Blinds(250/500) - Monday, August 15, 16:55:45 EDT 2005
Table Table 12377 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 5: SpacemanBryc ( $1730 )
Seat 6: samia215 ( $1150 )
Seat 9: wonwith27off ( $1780 )
Seat 1: Dorian_G ( $5340 )
Trny:14865028 Level:9
Blinds(250/500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SpacemanBryc [ Qs 6c ]
>You have options at Table 11055 Table!.
wonwith27off: Howard lederer
SpacemanBryc is all-In [1730]
samia215 folds.
wonwith27off: see, u can spell his
wonwith27off folds.
Dorian_G folds.
SpacemanBryc does not show cards.
SpacemanBryc wins 2480 chips
not gus's though
>You have options at Table 11055 Table!.
Game #2540345368 starts.

#Game No : 2540345368
***** Hand History for Game 2540345368 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:14865028 Level:9 Blinds(250/500) - Monday, August 15, 16:56:28 EDT 2005
Table Table 12377 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 5: SpacemanBryc ( $2480 )
Seat 6: samia215 ( $1150 )
Seat 9: wonwith27off ( $1530 )
Seat 1: Dorian_G ( $4840 )
Trny:14865028 Level:9
Blinds(250/500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SpacemanBryc [ As 5d ]
samia215 folds.
wonwith27off folds.
Dorian_G raises [750].
SpacemanBryc folds.
Dorian_G does not show cards.
Dorian_G wins 1500 chips
Game #2540348241 starts.

#Game No : 2540348241
***** Hand History for Game 2540348241 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:14865028 Level:9 Blinds(250/500) - Monday, August 15, 16:57:03 EDT 2005
Table Table 12377 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 5: SpacemanBryc ( $1980 )
Seat 6: samia215 ( $1150 )
Seat 9: wonwith27off ( $1530 )
Seat 1: Dorian_G ( $5340 )
Trny:14865028 Level:9
Blinds(250/500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SpacemanBryc [ Ts 6s ]
wonwith27off folds.
Dorian_G folds.
SpacemanBryc folds.
samia215 does not show cards.
samia215 wins 750 chips
Game #2540349564 starts.

#Game No : 2540349564
***** Hand History for Game 2540349564 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:14865028 Level:9 Blinds(250/500) - Monday, August 15, 16:57:20 EDT 2005
Table Table 12377 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 5: SpacemanBryc ( $1730 )
Seat 6: samia215 ( $1400 )
Seat 9: wonwith27off ( $1530 )
Seat 1: Dorian_G ( $5340 )
Trny:14865028 Level:9
Blinds(250/500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SpacemanBryc [ Kc 5c ]
Dorian_G folds.
SpacemanBryc is all-In [1730]
samia215 folds.
wonwith27off folds.
SpacemanBryc does not show cards.
SpacemanBryc wins 2480 chips
Game #2540352899 starts.

#Game No : 2540352899
***** Hand History for Game 2540352899 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:14865028 Level:9 Blinds(250/500) - Monday, August 15, 16:58:00 EDT 2005
Table Table 12377 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 5: SpacemanBryc ( $2480 )
Seat 6: samia215 ( $1150 )
Seat 9: wonwith27off ( $1030 )
Seat 1: Dorian_G ( $5340 )
Trny:14865028 Level:9
Blinds(250/500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SpacemanBryc [ As 2h ]
SpacemanBryc folds.
samia215 folds.
wonwith27off is all-In [780]
Dorian_G calls [530].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4c, 9d, 9s ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qs ]
** Dealing River ** [ 4h ]
wonwith27off shows [ Jd, Jh ] two pairs, jacks and nines.
Dorian_G shows [ Th, Ks ] two pairs, nines and fours.
wonwith27off wins 2060 chips from the main pot with two pairs, jacks and nines.
Game #2540354477 starts.

#Game No : 2540354477
***** Hand History for Game 2540354477 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:14865028 Level:9 Blinds(250/500) - Monday, August 15, 16:58:20 EDT 2005
Table Table 12377 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 5: SpacemanBryc ( $2480 )
Seat 6: samia215 ( $1150 )
Seat 9: wonwith27off ( $2060 )
Seat 1: Dorian_G ( $4310 )
Trny:14865028 Level:9
Blinds(250/500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SpacemanBryc [ 5c 6c ]
samia215 raises [1000].
wonwith27off folds.
Dorian_G raises [1250].
SpacemanBryc folds.
samia215 is all-In [150]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4c, 5s, 3c ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kd ]
** Dealing River ** [ 6s ]
Dorian_G shows [ Qs, Js ] high card king.
samia215 shows [ As, Ad ] a pair of aces.
Dorian_G wins 350 chips from side pot #1 with high card king.
samia215 wins 2800 chips from the main pot with a pair of aces.
Game #2540356628 starts.

#Game No : 2540356628
***** Hand History for Game 2540356628 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:14865028 Level:9 Blinds(250/500) - Monday, August 15, 16:58:46 EDT 2005
Table Table 12377 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 5: SpacemanBryc ( $1980 )
Seat 6: samia215 ( $2800 )
Seat 9: wonwith27off ( $2060 )
Seat 1: Dorian_G ( $3160 )
Trny:14865028 Level:9
Blinds(250/500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SpacemanBryc [ Jh 2s ]
wonwith27off folds.
Dorian_G is all-In [3160]
SpacemanBryc folds.
samia215 folds.
Dorian_G does not show cards.
Dorian_G wins 3910 chips
Game #2540358068 starts.

#Game No : 2540358068
***** Hand History for Game 2540358068 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:14865028 Level:9 Blinds(250/500) - Monday, August 15, 16:59:04 EDT 2005
Table Table 12377 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 5: SpacemanBryc ( $1730 )
Seat 6: samia215 ( $2300 )
Seat 9: wonwith27off ( $2060 )
Seat 1: Dorian_G ( $3910 )
Trny:14865028 Level:9
Blinds(250/500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SpacemanBryc [ 3h Td ]
Dorian_G folds.
SpacemanBryc is all-In [1730]
samia215 folds.
wonwith27off folds.
SpacemanBryc does not show cards.
SpacemanBryc wins 2480 chips
Game #2540360552 starts.

#Game No : 2540360552
***** Hand History for Game 2540360552 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:14865028 Level:9 Blinds(250/500) - Monday, August 15, 16:59:34 EDT 2005
Table Table 12377 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 5: SpacemanBryc ( $2480 )
Seat 6: samia215 ( $2050 )
Seat 9: wonwith27off ( $1560 )
Seat 1: Dorian_G ( $3910 )
Trny:14865028 Level:9
Blinds(250/500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SpacemanBryc [ 4d Ks ]
SpacemanBryc folds.
samia215 folds.
wonwith27off is all-In [1310]
Dorian_G calls [1060].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3h, 6c, Jh ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9c ]
** Dealing River ** [ Ah ]
wonwith27off shows [ 7s, 7h ] a pair of sevens.
Dorian_G shows [ 9s, Qc ] a pair of nines.
Dorian_G wins 3120 chips from the main pot with a pair of nines.
wonwith27off finished in fourth place.
gg
gl
wonwith27off has left the table.
The Small Blind left the table. The Dealer button remains in place.
Game #2540362162 starts.

ZeroPointMachine
08-15-2005, 05:27 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Seat 5: SpacemanBryc ( $2330 )
Seat 6: samia215 ( $1800 )
Seat 9: wonwith27off ( $1680 )
Seat 1: Dorian_G ( $4190 )
Trny:14865028 Level:8
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SpacemanBryc [ 3d As ]
samia215 folds.
wonwith27off folds.
Dorian_G calls [200].
SpacemanBryc checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8h, 3s, Ts ]
Dorian_G bets [400].
wonwith27off: why cant u spell his name on here?
SpacemanBryc folds.

[/ QUOTE ]


Did you have a read that prevented you from pushing after the SB limp? This hand is early in the HH so there is no evidence either way.