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Wevie
08-15-2005, 10:09 AM
Party 10+1's. Last three days my 5th and 6th place finishes have skyrocketed. A few hands I'd like looked at:

#1

***** Hand History for Game 2538954606 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14858666 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Monday, August 15, 10:02:29 EDT 2005
Table Table 39774 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 4: Auger628 ( $2570 )
Seat 9: twuch ( $3440 )
Seat 10: jmo34 ( $355 )
Seat 3: simi82 ( $675 )
Seat 7: Wevie ( $960 )
Trny:14858666 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Wevie [ 7s 7d ]
Wevie is all-In [960]


#2

***** Hand History for Game 2538900260 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14858389 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Monday, August 15, 09:32:24 EDT 2005
Table Table 35036 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: let_em_hang ( $1250 )
Seat 7: Wevie ( $535 )
Seat 5: thadwhit ( $2590 )
Seat 9: GJCLARK ( $1140 )
Seat 3: essaul ( $1240 )
Seat 10: mrstrike ( $1245 )
Trny:14858389 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Wevie [ Td Js ]
let_em_hang folds.
essaul folds.
thadwhit folds.
Wevie is all-In [535]


#3

***** Hand History for Game 2538839493 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14858117 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Monday, August 15, 08:55:16 EDT 2005
Table Table 39802 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: gritch52256 ( $480 )
Seat 2: IRSdude ( $840 )
Seat 3: Wevie ( $515 )
Seat 4: HJKaitlyn ( $1195 )
Seat 5: turbospede ( $800 )
Seat 8: trvahu ( $1825 )
Seat 9: BLUE10 ( $1505 )
Seat 10: Mattressking ( $840 )
Trny:14858117 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Wevie [ Kd Jd ]
IRSdude folds.
Wevie is all-In [515]

#4

***** Hand History for Game 2538793631 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:14857865 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Monday, August 15, 08:24:08 EDT 2005
Table Table 13826 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: Darth_Spader ( $4551 )
Seat 4: Wevie ( $460 )
Seat 6: hockers1987 ( $1218 )
Seat 9: goin_allin ( $1771 )
Trny:14857865 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Wevie [ 9c Jc ]
Darth_Spader folds.
Wevie is all-In [460]

#5

***** Hand History for Game 2535723301 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14841172 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Sunday, August 14, 19:31:03 EDT 2005
Table Table 11119 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: Wevie ( $720 )
Seat 2: DENWATTS ( $1890 )
Seat 3: Maramari ( $2887 )
Seat 6: BobbyBarker ( $1919 )
Seat 9: sire007 ( $584 )
Trny:14841172 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Wevie [ 5h Kh ]
sire007 folds.
Wevie is all-In [720]




I think that these are OK. The last one is a long shot, but my stack is so short. I think the problem is that I'm short stacked in each one of these. Well, the first hand maybe not so bad. I think I may need to look further back in my HH's to find the problem.

Is it that my stacks are so short my pushes are not much of a threat?

Myst
08-15-2005, 10:11 AM
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Is it that my stacks are so short my pushes are not much of a threat?

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Yes.

Wevie
08-15-2005, 10:12 AM
Simple answer to a simple problem. Thanks.

Maulik
08-15-2005, 10:15 AM
I think I may need to look further back in my HH's to find the problem.

yes, probably. I hope you're pushing AI almost everytime if its folded to you in the SB.

#1-5 I push.

it seems there is an underlying problem though.

tigerite
08-15-2005, 10:15 AM
1,2,4 and 5 are ok, but I don't like 3. However, even that's close enough to do it, and probably not terribly -EV

Wevie
08-15-2005, 10:18 AM
#3? Really? KJs hmmm.... What do you not like about it?

tigerite
08-15-2005, 10:19 AM
6 people still to act, and only K high.

Well, ok, face up it's like -0.2% EV so it's fair enough then.

Wevie
08-15-2005, 10:24 AM
I know I have to push this a long way, but I felt the blinds were nipping at my butt.

Maybe I should have waited until I wasn't pushing so far, but suprisingly, the rest of the hand:

HJKaitlyn folds.
turbospede folds.
trvahu folds.
BLUE10 folds.
Mattressking folds.
gritch52256 is all-In [380]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2c, 4h, Jh ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qh ]
** Dealing River ** [ Td ]
gritch52256 shows [ Qs, 8s ] a pair of queens.
Wevie shows [ Kd, Jd ] a pair of jacks.
Wevie wins 35 chips from side pot #1 with a pair of jacks.

Personally, I wouldn't have made the call, but again, short stack desperation

tigerite
08-15-2005, 10:28 AM
He shouldn't have called with that.

USCSigma1097
08-15-2005, 10:48 AM
Wevie...

As previously mentioned, your underlying problem in all of these hands is that you are SOO short stacked. You need to start getting aggressive much more early.

In all of your examples, the pushes are fine. I think it was tigerrite or durron or somebody who said about these "desperation pushes" just sling it in there. At that point, you are going to need some luck to win the sng anyways.

You need to look at your game and figure out how to amass chips earlier, or at least not bleed so many away. Also, read Harrington on Hold'em volume one. Pay attention to his discussion of the levels green, yellow, and red which discusses your stack vs. the increasing blinds and how you should loosen up accordingly.

Hope that helps...
Sigma

Maulik
08-15-2005, 10:55 AM
You need to look at your game and figure out how to amass chips earlier, or at least not bleed so many away.

Rather than amassing chips its far more important not to bleed chips. I think that's what you need to look at.

i reccomend reading all of duron & tigerite's posts asap. they are all excellent low buy-in players ... and will be good higher buy-ins as well.

nWirb
08-15-2005, 11:01 AM
You are not that short in hand #1, I might fold this and leave the even shorter stacks to knock themselfs out.

Wevie
08-15-2005, 11:14 AM
I've read HoHv1 and was doing terrific with the info I learned. I think a re-read may be in order.

I went back through some HH's and I found the point where the game turned. I was aggressively playing hands earlier in the tourney, but I was seeing that a good hand, such as QQ was falling when I wasn't the first to raise the pot. It looks like this has made me gun shy behind a raisor (raiser ? hmmm..). Looks like I'm re-reading HoH tonight and concentrating on my stage fright after a raise.

Thanks for everyone's advice. I post here for the criticism and I really appreciate the chance to tap into the vast knowledge available here.

skirtus
08-15-2005, 11:15 AM
I think you should take Maulik's advice and look for spots you might be bleeding chips early. Look at where you lost small amounts of chips at levels 1-3. Post some of those hands. 30-50 chips add up quickly. In some SnGs you just get short-stacked. It happens sometimes. AK can be a chip burner for me at the 10s because they call so many raises. Sometimes I get alot of pockets but dont hit my set. If you aren't bleeding chips in levels 1-3 than you might want to look for opportunities to get some chips at level 3. At level 4 I'm usually in push or fold mode unless I've built a stack already.

45suited
08-15-2005, 01:02 PM
[ QUOTE ]
***** Hand History for Game 2538954606 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14858666 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Monday, August 15, 10:02:29 EDT 2005
Table Table 39774 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 4: Auger628 ( $2570 )
Seat 9: twuch ( $3440 )
Seat 10: jmo34 ( $355 )
Seat 3: simi82 ( $675 )
Seat 7: Wevie ( $960 )
Trny:14858666 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Wevie [ 7s 7d ]
Wevie is all-In [960]

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Depending on the looseness of the table, folding here is entirely reasonable. In fact, on most low limit buy-in tables, this is a fold for me.

Freudian
08-15-2005, 01:11 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
***** Hand History for Game 2538954606 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14858666 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Monday, August 15, 10:02:29 EDT 2005
Table Table 39774 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 4: Auger628 ( $2570 )
Seat 9: twuch ( $3440 )
Seat 10: jmo34 ( $355 )
Seat 3: simi82 ( $675 )
Seat 7: Wevie ( $960 )
Trny:14858666 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Wevie [ 7s 7d ]
Wevie is all-In [960]

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Depending on the looseness of the table, folding here is entirely reasonable. In fact, on most low limit buy-in tables, this is a fold for me.

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UTG sixhanded it is a fold for me. Fivehanded I would probably push at a tight table, fold on a loose table.