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ilya
08-15-2005, 01:57 AM
I'm thinking I should bet maybe 3/5 pot and fold to a raise?

Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: StneColdCall ( $1015 )
Seat 10: stoltz1454 ( $800 )
Seat 5: DavidAims ( $800 )
Seat 8: IH8Terorists ( $800 )
Seat 4: kwakers ( $785 )
Seat 6: salvadoreric ( $630 )
Seat 3: scottygm ( $800 )
Seat 7: mRfRoDO420 ( $785 )
Seat 1: cfi116 ( $785 )
Seat 9: BCoup ( $800 )
Trny:14854536 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to StneColdCall [ Th Tc ]
BCoup folds.
stoltz1454 folds.
cfi116 folds.
StneColdCall calls [15].
scottygm folds.
kwakers folds.
DavidAims folds.
salvadoreric raises [30].
mRfRoDO420 folds.
IH8Terorists calls [15].
StneColdCall calls [15].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7h, Kd, 3s ]
IH8Terorists checks.
StneColdCall checks.
salvadoreric bets [15].
IH8Terorists calls [15].
StneColdCall calls [15].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jc ]
IH8Terorists checks.

microbet
08-15-2005, 02:24 AM
I don't think I would bet the turn. Too many villians to bluff into this smallish pot and a bluff is all it is.

ilya
08-15-2005, 02:26 AM
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I don't think I would bet the turn. Too many villians to bluff into this smallish pot and a bluff is all it is.

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Whaddaya mean, too many? It's 3-way and 1 guy has already checked!
I also think this bet has a value bet aspect as I wouldn't be at all surprised if A7 or 88 called.

microbet
08-15-2005, 02:40 AM
Ok, I guess it was just two many villians, not too many.

Still, it was the dumb mini-better that was yet to act and another overcard hit. I'd think of top pair crappy kicker as a situation where it is kinda-bluff-kinda-value.

I'm generally just looking for the exit here, but maybe it will work often enough. How about letting him make his silly mini-bet, getting a call from the terrorist hater and then raising? Still, level 1, 800 chip game, I'm perfectly happy to let this one go.

Ryendal
08-15-2005, 03:10 AM
And what do you think of a raise after this 15 bet ?
something like 100 since the pot is at 100.
Then if only the original minraiser call you, lead at the turn with ( or not )
I know it's really risky and also a lot of ship but this 15 bet is so stupid. May be he's on a pocket 3 or another garbage.

Else, I want to mention my standard play is to get away from this hand

yabastid
08-15-2005, 04:43 AM
I think you have to let this go once the second over hits on the turn. I think check raising the flop is a good option, but once that's missed you have to dump it.

Nicok7
08-15-2005, 06:44 AM
In low buy ins SnG I play weak tight for the first two levels. I definitly don t bet the turn, and I possibly fold on the flop, keeping my chips for later rather than trying to steal a tiny pot or taking an 11/1 shot (should I see two cards) that might not even get paid off when it hits.

tigerite
08-15-2005, 06:46 AM
Fold for 15 chips? Jesus, no.

Nicok7
08-15-2005, 06:53 AM
Given that probably no one has the king, how much can you possibly win from this pot if you don't hit your set? If you hit your set, how much do you win then?

If I have a 1000 chips (55s and above) I will probably raise the flop or the turn.
If I started with 800, I might call the 15 on the flop but certainly won't try to invest in this pot, I need to make sure I have more than 600 chips by the end of level three .

Nicok7
08-15-2005, 07:25 AM
I missed the min raise preflop, read too quickly. There is definitly too much in the pot to fold the flop. As for betting the turn, I guess it is read/level dependant.

Isura
08-15-2005, 02:49 PM
Betting the turn is utterly donkish. You have 3rd pair against 3 other opponents. Check and fold to any significant bet. FWIW, I raise preflop here to 50-60. Folded to you in MP1, what are you afraid of? Raise this and postflop becomes much easier. I hate limping with the best hand and having to play 3 donks out of position and let them draw to a cheap flop.