$55: What do you think?

[Messy_Jesse]

***** Hand History for Game 2536488319 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:14846842 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Sunday, August 14, 21:38:04 EDT 2005
Table Table 22362 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: thedreaded ( $1000 )
Seat 3: Cubbies114 ( $1975 )
Seat 4: Ziggy2222222 ( $85 )
Seat 5: The_Program ( $975 )
Seat 6: stormyweathr ( $630 )
Seat 7: manzon ( $905 )
Seat 8: jrg48 ( $2090 )
Seat 9: Sir_Tu_Yu ( $1310 )
Seat 10: pkrfang ( $1030 )
Trny:14846842 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Sir_Tu_Yu [ Ac As ]
thedreaded raises [30].
>You have options at Table 22351 Table!.
>You have options at Table 22361 Table!.
Cubbies114 calls [30].
Ziggy2222222 folds.
>You have options at Table 22361 Table!.
The_Program calls [30].
stormyweathr calls [30].
manzon folds.
jrg48 folds.
>You have options at Table 22351 Table!.
>You have options at Table 22361 Table!.
Sir_Tu_Yu raises [115].
pkrfang folds.
thedreaded calls [95].
>You have options at Table 22361 Table!.
Cubbies114 folds.
The_Program folds.
stormyweathr folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, Qh, 9h ]
Sir_Tu_Yu bets [900].


Bad move or good?


-Jess

[quinn]

make it about 225 to go preflop

[Messy_Jesse]

I liked the 125 pf. Did what I needed, as it narrowed down the field to me and another person. I want to know what you think of the push.

_Jess

[Myst]

The push is horrible Jess, b/c you are only going to be called by a hand that has you beat, and the pot is not that large to justify a push. Even though you have AA, your hand shrivled up to 72o the minute that flop hit.

Though I have never personally done it, I dont think checking is a bad play here for a flop of that texture. I think that even if you make a continuation bet of 125-150, top pair + draws are still gonna call you, you become more pot committed, have a tough turn decision and a lot of cards that are gonna scare you $hitless.

Remember, you can always steal that amount later for ALOT less risk at Level 4/5.

[lastchance]

Raise more preflop. There's t120 in minraises, plus t45, and you're only reraising back to t125? I would have made it t160 at least.

Once you're on the flop, that's a real scary board, but there is quite a bit of money in the middle.

The push is interesting. It's an overbet, but people have a lot of outs on this board. I think it might work, considering a queen will call here.

[Page Jacobson]

I don't play at the $55 level but I like the push. Your villian will fold a lot of hands here I think.

[Myst]

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I think it might work, considering a queen will call here.

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A queen without a draw is not gonna call here often enough at the 55s to make this profitible.

[DaveKForty7]

Typical 55 player with AQ/KQ folds? (Assuming they didn't fold PF)

[raptor517]

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I think it might work, considering a queen will call here.

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A queen without a draw is not gonna call here often enough at the 55s to make this profitible.

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i agree. i raise more pf and play it from there. pushing that flop isnt my idea of a great play. holla

[psyduck]

Bad push. Bet 2/3 pot, and the rest is read-dependent (i.e. do you call if he pushes, blah)

I'm with the raise more preflop gang

[tigerite]

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i agree. i raise more pf and play it from there. pushing that flop isnt my idea of a great play. holla

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[johnnybeef]

I think that usher needs to get his ass back up to the 215s /images/graemlins/blush.gif

[Nicok7]

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you are only going to be called by a hand that has you beat

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If you want to pursue interest in this pot, you could try to bet 2/3rd of the pot
- if somebody push, they might be on a draw, but this early in the tournament you can still fold happily. They might also have a better made hand
- if somebody calls, check the turn. In my experience a flush draw will always check here, and you will now know what you're up against, if the flush comes, check fold, if not, check call to give him a chance to bluff.

That's my line anyway, other possibility: a check raise on the flop also, and if you get a free turn, bet 2/3rd of the pot and all the flush draws will get an horrible price, you will usually pick it right here

Either way your push was -EV. A lot. Basically an all-in bluff level 1...

[Uppercut]

Without the Ace of hearts, this is about as bad a flop as you can get. You still have well over 1000 chips at this point. There is no poker law that says you must play your AA to the river.