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[conslice]

i was just curios as to how much the best 2000nl players are making im talking about the multitabling TAG's more specificly if anyone has any idea thru poker tracker or an educated guess how much AliKings/Kristelita makes monthly

[Dommer]

Friend of mine is up 400k for the year at 10/20 NL, couldn't say how anyone else is doin though.

[bkholdem]

I have Kristelita 13.5 PTBB/100 for 2,500 hands in my database at the 2000 game.

AliKings is in the red at both the 1000 and 2000 games with over 3,500 games in my database.

[fsuplayer]

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I have Kristelita 13.5 PTBB/100 for 2,500 hands in my database at the 2000 game.

AliKings is in the red at both the 1000 and 2000 games with over 3,500 games in my database.

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you realize they are the same player, right?

[fsuplayer]

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i was just curios as to how much the best 2000nl players are making im talking about the multitabling TAG's more specificly if anyone has any idea thru poker tracker or an educated guess how much AliKings/Kristelita makes monthly

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yeah, i have alikings/kristelita at -$114/hr, so if he averages 25hrs a wk, then he should be at about -$28,500 for the 10/20 games.

[pokerjoker]

yeah, i have alikings/kristelita at -$114/hr, so if he averages 25hrs a wk, then he should be at about -$28,500 for the 10/20 games.

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Is this the avg math ability for most HL players?...

[Yeti]

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Is this the avg math ability for most HL players?...

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I have no idea if this is sarcasm.

[pokerjoker]

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Is this the avg math ability for most HL players?...

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I have no idea if this is sarcasm.

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sorry i have that problem....im just being a dick. probably cause im just jealous that you guys actually play poker and i can just play pps and wait...it was still suprising to me tho.

[Yeti]

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it was still suprising to me tho.

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What was surprising? His (obviously sarcastic) math is correct, unfortunately you don't realise how he's worked it out.

[pokerjoker]

allright...can you tell me? is he assuming a 10 week session?

[Yeti]

The Party games have been running ~ 10 weeks.

[pokerjoker]

Ok thanks...I didnt know my place here...sorry.

[KaneKungFu123]

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Friend of mine is up 400k for the year at 10/20 NL, couldn't say how anyone else is doin though.

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40hr/wk x 10 = 400hr = $1000/hr = Bullshit.

[KaneKungFu123]

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i was just curios as to how much the best 2000nl players are making im talking about the multitabling TAG's more specificly if anyone has any idea thru poker tracker or an educated guess how much AliKings/Kristelita makes monthly

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15 vpip...

yawn

[Yeti]

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Friend of mine is up 400k for the year at 10/20 NL, couldn't say how anyone else is doin though.

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40hr/wk x 10 = 400hr = $1000/hr = Bullshit.

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He's talking about 10/20 at different sites as well = You look stupid.

[edge]

Full ring is lame. Do any sites spread 10/20 short?

[kagame]

name them, and no hes not

[etizzle]

stars?

[kagame]

see what i mean?

[conslice]

does anyone have any pokertracker data on gailcal or any comments as to how good or bad a player?

[Chris Daddy Cool]

why do you care?

[Neurotoxin]

I think it's fair to say Ali/Kristel is a 5(PT)BB/100 player over time given the way he plays. I think he's said he plays as many as 12 tables at once, but we'll say 10 since I'm weak at math. The guy is a machine who probably puts in 6 hours a day. thats 60 hours a day at $200/hr or $12000 a day. If you want to be conservative and lower one of the variables fine, but I don't think there's any way he makes less than 6k/day on average.

*EDIT* Confused /100 with /hr, so cut the above estimates in half given 50 hands per hour as a rough estimate, and you have a range from $3000-$6000/day.

[Shaun]

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I think it's fair to say Ali/Kristel is a 5(PT)BB/100 player over time given the way he plays. I think he's said he plays as many as 12 tables at once, but we'll say 10 since I'm weak at math. The guy is a machine who probably puts in 6 hours a day. thats 60 hours a day at $200/hr or $12000 a day. If you want to be conservative and lower one of the variables fine, but I don't think there's any way he makes less than 6k/day on average.

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So he makes over 2 million a year? That's pretty good...

[Neurotoxin]

My sarcasm detector is off the chart, but I just edited my above post due to a mistake and it's safe to say he's only making a million per year. And I know what I'm talking about.

[Dommer]

I don't want to go into specifics but he's a european player playing mostly ladbrokes and william hill and some party poker/ps. He plays 6-8 tables, and his hourly for the year is 475$ an hour. He also dabbles in 20/40 and 25/50 I believe, but 10/20 is the majority.

[Neurotoxin]

I didn't even understand the equation that led to the cry of "bullshit", 400k is quite doable.

[Shaun]

That sounds a little more reasonable.

[Dommer]

To top it all off hes only been playing poker about 1.5 years.

[Yeti]

[ QUOTE ]
name them, and no hes not

[/ QUOTE ]

Eh? Stars/UB/Prima.

[gomberg]

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Full ring is lame. Do any sites spread 10/20 short?

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full tilt has 1 6max 10-20 going most nights. Usually a couple fish in there just like everywhere else.

[Niwa]

You dont need much ability to do this math.

[fsuplayer]

no chance ali is a 5PTBB winner.

[9cao]

Every once in a while pokerroom gets a 5 max game going at 10-20.

[Leptyne]

I'm from Texas and I know bullshit when I step in it.

[Wintermute]

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Friend of mine is up 400k for the year at 10/20 NL, couldn't say how anyone else is doin though.

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I believe this number.

[conslice]

if playing six hours a day is being a machine then im the [censored] terminator

[KaneKungFu123]

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Friend of mine is up 400k for the year at 10/20 NL, couldn't say how anyone else is doin though.

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40hr/wk x 10 = 400hr = $1000/hr = Bullshit.

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He's talking about 10/20 at different sites as well = You look stupid.

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jak sa jing jing roy

[RollaJ]

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if playing six hours a day is being a machine then im the [censored] terminator

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6 hours of 8 tabling 10-20 NL is certainly machine-esque

[J_V]

Because maybe he's making 350k a year playing limit and wants to see if he can make a million playing no limit? Maybe he's [censored] curious. What do you care?

[J_V]

The best players in this game are probably making ridiculous numbers. Way over half a million.

[conslice]

i care because both gailcal and alikings are freinds of mine and i think they overexxagerate there winnings but maybe not.

[KaneKungFu123]

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i care because both gailcal and alikings are freinds of mine and i think they overexxagerate there winnings but maybe not.

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they are both around 16/4.

that means they suck.

[kagame]

i love playing with those two, usually the easiest to read

[punter11235]

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they are both around 16/4.

that means they suck.

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But they are still winning players in this game arent they ?
Btw its very sad you can be winning player playing like this at that level.

[TheWorstPlayer]

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Btw its very good to see that you can be a winning player playing like this at that level.

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Dude, isn't it nice to know that at NL1K and NL2K you still don't have to be all that awesome to win?

[Jason Strasser]

I havent loaded into tracker in a while, what are my crappy numbers?

[hit_the_set]

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i love playing with those two, usually the easiest to read

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[anduril]

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i care because both gailcal and alikings are freinds of mine and i think they overexxagerate there winnings but maybe not.

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they are both around 16/4.

that means they suck.

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What numbers would constitute not sucking?

[Shaun]

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i care because both gailcal and alikings are freinds of mine and i think they overexxagerate there winnings but maybe not.

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they are both around 16/4.

that means they suck.

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What numbers would constitute not sucking?

[/ QUOTE ]

16/4? What is that? Voluntarily put money in and pf raise?

[kagame]

set mining and playing AK and monster pairs

thats not poker imho

[Rocaix]

I have alikings/kristelita as a slight loser over ~12 000 PT hands. He/she is a set farmer.

[KaneKungFu123]

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set mining and playing AK and monster pairs

thats not poker imho

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i think he was tilting yesterday.

he open-raised on the button w/ AQ

[Dommer]

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i care because both gailcal and alikings are freinds of mine and i think they overexxagerate there winnings but maybe not.

[/ QUOTE ]

they are both around 16/4.

that means they suck.

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My friends stats are around that at full ring and he does great, so why does that mean they suck? I could see how they suck if you are talking about short handed though. But what you do past the flop is far more important that pre at full ring I believe.

[RikaKazak]

I have NO IDEA what the player in question is making, but 1 million a year isn't hard for a strong 10/20 player.

[Nigel]

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I have NO IDEA what the player in question is making, but 1 million a year {b]isn't hard[/b] for a strong 10/20 player.

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Is this true? I find it hard to believe, but I know nothing about NL win rates nor how bad the opposition is at this level.

Nigel

[Daliman]

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Friend of mine is up 400k for the year at 10/20 NL, couldn't say how anyone else is doin though.

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40hr/wk x 10 = 400hr = $1000/hr = Bullshit.

[/ QUOTE ]

I know this isn't as long a sample, and may not have much bearing on this, but a friend of mine is up about 125k in these games the last 40 days, in somewhat limited play, and while he's very good, he's no Spirit rock by any means. I think it may be possible to be +400k, maybe even easily.