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stinkypete

08-13-2005, 07:53 PM

button is a 2+2er, probably tighter than average, doesnt seem to go to showdown a whole lot.

MP is 43/0 after 13 hands and passive so far.

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls, MP calls, Hero calls, Button raises, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10.40 SB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (5 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Hero checks, Button bets, BB folds, UTG folds, MP calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.70 BB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
MP checks, Hero checks, Button bets, MP calls, Hero raises, Button folds, MP calls.

River: (11.70 BB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 11.70 BB

Entity

08-13-2005, 07:56 PM

I'd either lead the flop or the turn. I wouldn't checkraise the turn.

Rob

wackjob

08-13-2005, 08:01 PM

I lead the flop in these situations almost always.

imported_stealthcow

08-13-2005, 08:01 PM

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button is a 2+2er, probably tighter than average, doesnt seem to go to showdown a whole lot.

MP is 43/0 after 13 hands and passive so far.

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls, MP calls, Hero calls, Button raises, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10.40 SB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (5 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Hero checks, Button bets, BB folds, UTG folds, MP calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.70 BB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
MP checks, Hero checks, Button bets, MP calls, Hero raises, Button folds, MP calls.

River: (11.70 BB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 11.70 BB

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how are you playing this hand if an A, K or Q come on the turn? barring a bad turn i like it more then my standard play which is to c/r the flop.

Anders_G

08-13-2005, 08:19 PM

bet the flop and hope the pre-flop raiser raise you with nothing and eliminates the field

stinkypete

08-13-2005, 08:24 PM

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how are you playing this hand if an A, K or Q come on the turn? barring a bad turn i like it more then my standard play which is to c/r the flop.

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if A,K,Q come on the turn i'm most likely letting it go. i like checkraising the turn rather than leading because button might fold a hand like TT,99,88 and will almost certainly throw away his 6 outer with overcards. MP is probably on a draw, though he might fold a weak pair or some other hand with outs.

i don't like checkraising the flop. it gets too much money into a multiway pot and lets people correctly draw out. what do you do on the turn when a crappy card (A,K,Q) comes after checkraising the flop? if you're going to bet or raise on the flop though, i prefer leading over checkraising since button might fold his AT or raise with overs to make the other 2 players face two bets cold, etc.

stinkypete

08-13-2005, 08:26 PM

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bet the flop and hope the pre-flop raiser raise you with nothing and eliminates the field

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this used to be my standard line, and is the reason i posted this hand... i've been experimenting with waiting until the turn before putting a lot of chips in with marginal hands and committing to showdown.

wackjob

08-13-2005, 08:38 PM

No one is folding pocket 88-1010 here. Waiting till the turn lets people catch-up who were drawing slim. I bet the flop because I want to get it HU with the PF raiser.

stinkypete

08-13-2005, 08:40 PM

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No one is folding pocket 88-1010 here.

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i disagree

wackjob

08-13-2005, 08:46 PM

Please point me to these players so I can run them down. Honestly, all but the MOST tight players at 5/10 are going to see a turn with those PP's on this board.

stinkypete

08-13-2005, 08:49 PM

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Please point me to these players so I can run them down. Honestly, all but the MOST tight players at 5/10 are going to see a turn with those PP's on this board.

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they've already seen the turn

krishanleong

08-13-2005, 10:19 PM

protected pot cr semibluff. I guess this is right kind of opponent. I prefer the turn to have filled some sort of draw. I also wonder if this opponent check a lot of turns? I guess he had overs but I would have thought he would check the turn with overs.

Krishan