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NiR
08-13-2005, 05:12 PM
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 2: crazy_doc ( $1980 )
Seat 3: kev1701 ( $3570 )
Seat 6: nir101684 ( $2450 )
Trny:14806423 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to nir101684 [ Kd Js ]
>You have options at Table 13878 Table!.
nir101684 raises [325].
crazy_doc is all-In [1905]
kev1701 folds.


i had reads but lets disregard it for now. what would you guys do in general without much reads.

Slim Pickens
08-13-2005, 05:45 PM
What buy-in level is this?

That raise is not the kind I think you should make without a solid plan for what to do if you're reraised. I have no problem folding the hand at this point, and I also would have raised to 500 preflop.

SlimP

swiftrhett
08-13-2005, 08:33 PM
I fold, no question.

raptor517
08-13-2005, 09:01 PM
autofold. if its not, plug them leaks /images/graemlins/wink.gif holla

camo1131
08-13-2005, 09:35 PM
Dont mean to hijack but what if we change the situation a little bit, lets say:

Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: crazy_doc ( $2100 )
Seat 3: kev1701 ( $2900 )
Seat 6: nir101684 ( $2000 )
Seat 7: xxxxxxxxx ( $3000 )
Trny:14806423 Level:6
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to nir101684 [ Kd Js ]
Seat 7: xxxxxxxxx folds

Is this still an easy fold?

adanthar
08-13-2005, 09:47 PM
Of course not.

camo1131
08-13-2005, 09:50 PM
OK, is bubble or the blinds at 200/400 that makes this a autopush as oppossed to the previous situation. They both contribute, but which moreso?

Slim Pickens
08-15-2005, 12:22 PM
[ QUOTE ]
autofold. if its not, plug them leaks /images/graemlins/wink.gif holla

[/ QUOTE ]

I raise this at the 11's. Most players there won't play back at you without a premium holding. At the 33's, it's highly dependent on the players involved, so I might go either way. At the 55's (highest I can comment) I'd probably be too worried that an opponent would figure out I have to fold to a raise and push any two back at me.

Seriously, if raising KJ 3-handed is a leak, I have a problem.

lastchance
08-15-2005, 12:24 PM
Well, you just push initially here (and anything else is horribly wrong).

Above, I guess it's a fold.

It's all about the blind size.

Slim Pickens
08-15-2005, 01:22 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Well, you just push initially here (and anything else is horribly wrong).

Above, I guess it's a fold.

It's all about the blind size.

[/ QUOTE ]

Why open-push for 16BB?

Hendricks433
08-15-2005, 01:30 PM
How is raising with KJ 3 handed a auto muck? I raise and If they push I fold and call well play the flop. I think mucking KJ 3 handed is pretty tight but I guess the blinds are a little low at this point and the 150 isnt worth it maybe.

Slim Pickens
08-15-2005, 01:44 PM
Sorry. I was unclear. Mucking preflop is usually bad. There are two reasons I might do it though.

1) At least one of my opponents is hyper-aggressive and opportunistic, and will re-raise a lot of hands.

2) Both of my opponents really, really, suck and I'm sure they'll knock each other out in the next two orbits, leaving me with plenty of chips to play HU against a weak opponent.

I still think the OP's situation is an easy fold. I still like raising more preflop and folding to a reraise.