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IGMorton

08-12-2005, 09:24 PM

Guess what hand all 3 villans had. This was 3 consecutive hands in a row at the same table! Anyone here go on tilt after this?

Hand 1 - Minor annoyance.

Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls, MP raises, Hero 3-bets, SB caps, 1 fold, UTG calls, MP calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (17 SB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, MP bets, Hero raises, SB folds, UTG folds, MP calls.

Turn: (10.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets, MP raises, Hero calls.

River: (14.50 BB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
MP bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 16.50 BB

Results in white below: 
MP has Ac Ah (two pair, aces and twos).
Hero has Kh Kd (two pair, kings and twos).
Outcome: MP wins 16.50 BB. 

Hand 2 - Rare, but humorous.

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
1 fold, Hero raises, 2 folds, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.16 BB) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: (5.16 BB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 7.16 BB

Results in white below: 
BB has Ad Ac (three of a kind, aces).
Hero has Qh Ts (one pair, queens).
Outcome: BB wins 7.16 BB. 

Hand 3: Had to take a break after this one.

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG raises, 1 fold, Button calls, 1 fold, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, Button calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.16 BB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, Button calls, Hero calls.

River: (12.16 BB) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Button folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14.16 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has Qd Ks (one pair, kings).
UTG has Ah Ac (one pair, aces).
Outcome: UTG wins 14.16 BB.

donger

08-12-2005, 11:47 PM

So losing with the worst hand is supposed to put you on tilt these days?

stillbr

08-13-2005, 12:03 AM

none of these are bad beats

Luzion

08-13-2005, 12:19 AM

He is just pointing out how much it sucks to run into AA 3x in a row while holding hands that made top pair on the flop. I dont think its supposed to be a bad beat post....

IGMorton

08-13-2005, 12:27 AM

Right, not a bad beat post.

it's amazing i ran into AA 3 times in a row.

IGMorton

08-13-2005, 12:30 AM

i didn't get angry. but, i was annoyed enough i had to get away from the table for a few minutes.

what are the odds you'll run into AA 3 times in a row when you have a good hand? assuming i don't hold an ace one of 5 opponents will have AA:

5 * 4/50 * 3/49 = 2.45% of the time

The proability of me holding a top 15% hand each time and an opponent having AA is:

.15 * .025 = .00367 = .367% of the time

The probability of this happening 3 times in a row:

.00367 ^ 3 = .000000049 = .0000049%

THE ODDS OF THIS HAPPENING ARE 1 : 20230276 !

Catt

08-13-2005, 02:03 AM

You can't let this sort of thing bother you.

IGMorton

08-13-2005, 02:27 AM

thanks,

i know it shouldn't bother me. bad beats don't bother me much at all. this was bizzarre enough that i had to take a few minutes to regroup rather than play with the slightest bit of tilt.

with experience i hope i will learn to be indifferent to the outcome of any hand... even a 2 million to 1 occurance.

btw, did i play any of those hands poorly?

Luzion

08-13-2005, 02:27 AM

[ QUOTE ]
i didn't get angry. but, i was annoyed enough i had to get away from the table for a few minutes.

what are the odds you'll run into AA 3 times in a row when you have a good hand? assuming i don't hold an ace one of 5 opponents will have AA:

5 * 4/50 * 3/49 = 2.45% of the time

The proability of me holding a top 15% hand each time and an opponent having AA is:

.15 * .025 = .00367 = .367% of the time

The probability of this happening 3 times in a row:

.00367 ^ 3 = .000000049 = .0000049%

THE ODDS OF THIS HAPPENING ARE 1 : 20230276 !

[/ QUOTE ]

Some of your math is incorrect, and you also used some faulty logic. You are calculating the probability of this occuring if you only played EXACTLY 3 hands. So your probability is WAY off...

Jinx

08-13-2005, 02:30 AM

If this puts you on tilt you must have been running hot as [censored] before these 3 hands.

Here's a hand where I had a ridiculous suckout to make you feel better I guess.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
Hero raises, 1 fold, Button calls, SB calls, 1 fold.

Flop: (7 SB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (5 BB) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, Button raises, SB folds, Hero calls.

River: (9 BB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, Hero caps, Button calls.

Final Pot: 17 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has Qc Qs (four of a kind, queens).
Button has Kh Kc (full house, kings full of queens).
Outcome: Hero wins 17 BB.

kurosh

08-13-2005, 02:30 AM

The past 3 times I've had AA, they've been cracked for sizeable pots. I'd rather be in your position.

Catt

08-13-2005, 02:31 AM

[ QUOTE ]
btw, did i play any of those hands poorly?

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't get the stop 'n go in hand 3, but there could be a perfectly valid reason for approaching ti this way.