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Bob T.
03-25-2003, 07:13 PM
Loose aggressive CP 6-12 game. 4 limpers to me on the button, with A /forums/images/icons/heart.gif Q /forums/images/icons/heart.gif .

I raise, BB, and all the limpers call. (12 small bets)

Flop, Q /forums/images/icons/spade.gif 9 /forums/images/icons/diamond.gif 8 /forums/images/icons/club.gif . No back door flush for me.

Checked to me, I bet, two EP limpers call, Loose aggressive player in MP checkraises, folded back to to me. I three bet, both EP fold, and MP reraises. I Call. (22 small bets).

Turn A /forums/images/icons/spade.gif

MP bets, I have two pair, MP, could have a set, a straight, or two pair, I beat two pair, and have a couple of outs against the other two hands, I call.

River, 5 /forums/images/icons/spade.gif .

MP bets, I call. Anyone do anything different here? fold to the four bet on the flop, or raise either the turn or river?

Results in the next post.

Bob T.
03-25-2003, 07:21 PM
My opponent had JT off, for a flopped straight, and won.

I thought that it was possible that he had as little as a queen for his checkraise, and when he fourbet, I thought that he had either a straight, a set or two pair. If he had two pair, I was getting 21 to 1 to take one off, and make either trips, or top two. When I made top two on the turn, I decided that I would just call him down, unless I filled on the river.

The pot was huge, and my opponent was aggressive, so I thought that I had some chance of winning with two pair, but maybe I should have worked out a way to fold.

AceHigh
03-25-2003, 08:58 PM
I don't like the flop 3-bet. If he is a maniac let him keep betting and if he is a reasonable player you are behind his most likely holdings. People who check/raise a bettor and 2 callers in big pots usually have a very good hand or a big draw. The only draw on the flop, JT, is already there.

I think I just call it down the whole way. Probably the worst hand he can have hear is 2 pair. Course I know the results, lol. /forums/images/icons/cool.gif

Ed Miller
03-26-2003, 07:57 AM
The pot was huge, and my opponent was aggressive, so I thought that I had some chance of winning with two pair, but maybe I should have worked out a way to fold.

Don't fold top two pair in huge pots headsup against loose-aggressive opponents!

davidross
03-26-2003, 11:56 AM
I would raise the turn Bob. Take advantage of your position and get the extra bet in. Most players would wait until the turn to raise a straight or set so I’ll put him on two pair.

techsan
03-26-2003, 12:40 PM
I like your play. He is clearly telling you something by his aggressiveness on the flop. His check-raise on the flop says he's got a strong hand. I don't see him capping the flop with a preflop raiser in the hand with just a top pair of Queens although it is possible he has something like KQ. I would look at his probable holdings. 99 and 88 are common MP limping hands so he could have a set, JTo or JTs is a common MP holding so (as it turns out) he could have flopped the nuts. The only way I see a two pair for him is if he had 98s or something but it is not a likely MP limping hand (at least not as common as JT). It isn't likely he has an overpair to the flop giving his lack of a preflop raise. I could maybe see him having something like QJ and he is pumping the flop with top pair and a gutshot draw. The most logical holdings are 99,88,JT, with KQ or QJ being possible but a little less likely.

I like your turn and river play. You realize you are probably behind and you act accordingly. The Ace on the turn IMHO doesn't change a whole lot. You are still probably behind him and the best you can hope for is for one of you Ace or Queen outs to come on the river.

Bob T.
03-26-2003, 03:56 PM
I don't like the flop 3-bet.

I think that this three bet was almost mandatory. Checked to me on the button where I was the preflop raiser, I bet, showing that I still had $6 and two cards, the two guys up front call, and then the aggressive player raises, He might have as little as KQ here, or he might have a big hand. I want to eliminate the two players up front, in case my Queen is good, so that that hand can be played headsup from here on out, and I have fewer opponent outs in a nice sized pot.

Tyler Durden
03-26-2003, 04:09 PM
I must disagree. I don't think most players would wait till the turn to show aggression with a set or straight, not with three opponents. There's too much money to be made on the flop to postpone the collecting of the cash to the turn. I think if I flop a straight against 3 players, I'm jamming the pot harder than a male porn star jams a rookie doing her first flick. Same goes with a set.

davidross
03-26-2003, 04:18 PM
I apologize, I misread it. I thought the limpers were gone when it was back to him. Of course you are correct, with 4 opponents he would pump it then.

Gravy (Gravy Smoothie)
03-26-2003, 04:56 PM
I agree with your play completely, but I think you have to fold to the turn bet if you don't catch an Ace or Queen, after he's 4-bet the flop.

Bob T.
03-26-2003, 05:36 PM
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AceHigh
03-26-2003, 08:55 PM
'Cept the way your opponent played the hand, tells me he wants them in, that's kinda scary to me. Wouldn't he bet into you with a hand like KQ, hoping you would raise and make it heads up?

If the flop had a flush draw and the str8 wasn't already there then I think the 3-bet would be a better play.