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golfcchs
08-12-2005, 06:38 PM
55+4 of pokerroom Big blind is to 400

Hero 4300
Big Blind 5400
UTG 1800
UTG+1 3500

Hero delt A-Q

UTG goes all in
UTG goes all in

Hero?

Both UTG+1 has been aggresive and could be on marginal hand and UTG is getting desperate and is pushing wide rainge.

Do you call or fold here? If its a fold whant had do I need to call?
citanul
08-12-2005, 06:53 PM
i'm guessing you mean the first 2 guys both went all in?

meh call why not, i like to gamble.

citanul
golfcchs
08-12-2005, 07:00 PM
Ya they both went in ment to put UTG+1 there.
raptor517
08-12-2005, 07:48 PM
GAMBOOOOOOLLLL. holla
johnnybeef
08-12-2005, 07:56 PM
easy call
golfcchs
08-12-2005, 08:11 PM
Really this is an easy call? I folded and would of won, but against the 2 hand of my opponets I would only win about 40% of the time.
silencee
08-12-2005, 08:20 PM
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Really this is an easy call? I folded and would of won, but against the 2 hand of my opponets I would only win about 40% of the time.

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if your calculations were correct, and you win 40% of the time it makes it an even easier call.
psyduck
08-12-2005, 10:02 PM
are you guys serious? I always fold this.

OMG leak alert. Could Raptor or one of you explain your logic in calling? One of UTG or UTG+1 will be seriously crippled in this hand whatever happens.
HelmetCrash
08-13-2005, 01:24 AM
Guys,

Every once in a while I'll see a post where the advice really throws me, and this is one of them. It seems like this is a fold. Even with the aggressive read, the 2nd all in signifies a pretty good hand against which you probably only have a small advantage at best(?). Why put all your chips at risk? Thanks.
ChuckyB
08-13-2005, 05:02 AM
It's not an easy fold, but it's a fold. UTG is pushing a wide range, I can accept that. UTG+1 is aggressive, but this time he must have a hand. He wouldn't risk 1800 (best-case scenario if only UTG is in pot) on crap.

I'd expect UTG+1 to have a pair TT and up.

TT, JJ the pot odds are good. QQ, KK, AA or AK I'm pooched. I lean to the scared side, so I would fold.

To call I would need AA, KK, QQ
08-13-2005, 08:34 AM
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are you guys serious? I always fold this.

OMG leak alert. Could Raptor or one of you explain your logic in calling? One of UTG or UTG+1 will be seriously crippled in this hand whatever happens.

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Well, it’s a good call because it’s hard for something really bad to happen, and fairly likely (40%) that something really good will happen, you do have a strong hand after all.

If you win one of either the main pot or the side, nothing much happens
If UTG+1 scoops, you’re short stack stacked but in the money.
If you scoop, you’re hu with a 2:1 chip lead.
The only really bad result is if UTG wins the main and UTG+1 beats you for the side. But, this is by far the least likely scenario since UTG rates to have a much weaker hand than either of you.