View Full Version : Was this too aggressive on the flop?
Vee Quiva
08-12-2005, 01:35 PM
$33 Sit at Party. 5 players left. Blinds 50-100.
I am in middle position with 99. I am chip leader with 1800. Opponent is tight aggressive and in 2nd place with 1600.
Opponent directly in front of me raises preflop to 300. I call and everyone else folds.
750 in pot and 2 players to flop
Jack /images/graemlins/diamond.gif8 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif2 /images/graemlins/club.gif
Opponent leads out for 400. I raise to 800. My opponent reraises all in for 500 more. It's 500 more to me and the pot is 2850. I have 700 left if I fold. I have to call right?
the_joker
08-12-2005, 01:40 PM
I'd fold every time it was your turn to act.
ldavidjm
08-12-2005, 01:42 PM
Your stack is too shallow to be playing this hand postflop. You don't really have odds to play for set value. Therefore I think you either have to push preflop or fold. If he's a tight player I'd lean toward folding.
When you just smooth call preflop, you need to push/fold after his flop bet. Just minraising really sucks.
The way you played it I call his reraise and pray for a 9 to come.
EnderFFX
08-12-2005, 01:50 PM
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$33 Sit at Party. 5 players left. Blinds 50-100.
I am in middle position with 99. I am chip leader with 1800. Opponent is tight aggressive and in 2nd place with 1600.
Opponent directly in front of me raises preflop to 300. I call and everyone else folds.
750 in pot and 2 players to flop
Jack /images/graemlins/diamond.gif8 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif2 /images/graemlins/club.gif
Opponent leads out for 400. I raise to 800. My opponent reraises all in for 500 more. It's 500 more to me and the pot is 2850. I have 700 left if I fold. I have to call right?
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Bad call with 99. Basically you are hoping for a 9 on the flop or a low board. And what do you do on a low board when your opponent bets out anyway?
You are stuck. If you fold you are at 700, and can possibly make a comeback. If you are 100% sure opponent has a jack (or an overpair/set) you need to fold, if you think there is a chance he is bluffing, you have to call.
I'm calling then kicking myself afterword.
Vee Quiva
08-12-2005, 01:55 PM
I actually posted this hand from the point of view of my Opponent. I am the tight aggressive player who raised first.
The funny thing is, I had Ace /images/graemlins/diamond.gif Queen /images/graemlins/diamond.gif I made a continuation bet and got min raised. I had the odds to call for the flush and the over cards.
Here's where I think I screwed up. I figured, if I call the raise I only have 500 left so I might as well go all in.
Looking back, if I just call the raise and just bet the turn, I have better fold equity. Is that a better line?
downtown
08-12-2005, 02:38 PM
with the A/images/graemlins/diamond.gifQ/images/graemlins/diamond.gif on this board, I would advocate getting your chips in the middle on the flop, as you are the favorite (though barely) against 99 here. I hate pushing on the non /images/graemlins/diamond.gif turn. Your opponent will call anyway, unless they are really bad.
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