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TWINUNO
08-12-2005, 08:11 AM
I got really lucky and 2 guys pushed in front of me and there i was with AA and it held up. That explains my big stack.
Thought i was making the correct plays, but then again i dont really know.
Just wanted to know where i can take advantage somemore.

#Game No : 2520322839
***** Hand History for Game 2520322839 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14761748 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Friday, August 12, 00:27:45 EDT 2005
Table Table 11657 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 7: Wet_Bandit99 ( $2320 )
Seat 6: deadfinmoney ( $1860 )
Seat 8: HERO ( $2510 )
Seat 9: jalin9 ( $1005 )
Seat 2: yippityo ( $305 )
Trny:14761748 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 9s Kh ]
jalin9 folds.
yippityo raises [300].
deadfinmoney folds.
Wet_Bandit99 folds.
HERO calls [150].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jh, 2d, 6h ]
HERO bets [150].
yippityo is all-In [5]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9h ]
** Dealing River ** [ 8c ]
HERO shows [ 9s, Kh ] a pair of nines.
yippityo shows [ 5s, Ac ] high card ace.
HERO wins 145 chips from side pot #1 with a pair of nines.
HERO wins 685 chips from the main pot with a pair of nines.
yippityo finished in fifth place.
yippityo has left the table.
Game #2520325146 starts.

#Game No : 2520325146
***** Hand History for Game 2520325146 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14761748 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Friday, August 12, 00:28:08 EDT 2005
Table Table 11657 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 7: Wet_Bandit99 ( $2245 )
Seat 6: deadfinmoney ( $1860 )
Seat 8: HERO ( $2890 )
Seat 9: jalin9 ( $1005 )
Trny:14761748 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 8c 7h ]
deadfinmoney folds.
HERO: lol
Wet_Bandit99 folds.
HERO folds.
jalin9 does not show cards.
jalin9 wins 225 chips
Game #2520326930 starts.

#Game No : 2520326930
***** Hand History for Game 2520326930 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14761748 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Friday, August 12, 00:28:26 EDT 2005
Table Table 11657 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 7: Wet_Bandit99 ( $2245 )
Seat 6: deadfinmoney ( $1860 )
Seat 8: HERO ( $2815 )
Seat 9: jalin9 ( $1080 )
Trny:14761748 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 5c 5h ]
Wet_Bandit99 folds.
HERO raises [400].
jalin9 folds.
deadfinmoney folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins 625 chips
Game #2520329381 starts.

#Game No : 2520329381
***** Hand History for Game 2520329381 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14761748 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Friday, August 12, 00:28:50 EDT 2005
Table Table 11657 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 7: Wet_Bandit99 ( $2245 )
Seat 6: deadfinmoney ( $1710 )
Seat 8: HERO ( $3040 )
Seat 9: jalin9 ( $1005 )
Trny:14761748 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 9h Kc ]
HERO folds.
jalin9 is all-In [1005]
deadfinmoney folds.
Wet_Bandit99 folds.
jalin9 does not show cards.
jalin9 wins 1230 chips
Game #2520330703 starts.

#Game No : 2520330703
***** Hand History for Game 2520330703 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14761748 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Friday, August 12, 00:29:03 EDT 2005
Table Table 11657 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 7: Wet_Bandit99 ( $2095 )
Seat 6: deadfinmoney ( $1635 )
Seat 8: HERO ( $3040 )
Seat 9: jalin9 ( $1230 )
Trny:14761748 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 8d 7c ]
jalin9 is all-In [1230]
deadfinmoney folds.
Wet_Bandit99 folds.
HERO folds.
jalin9 does not show cards.
jalin9 wins 1455 chips
Game #2520332508 starts.

#Game No : 2520332508
***** Hand History for Game 2520332508 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14761748 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Friday, August 12, 00:29:20 EDT 2005
Table Table 11657 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 7: Wet_Bandit99 ( $2020 )
Seat 6: deadfinmoney ( $1635 )
Seat 8: HERO ( $2890 )
Seat 9: jalin9 ( $1455 )
Trny:14761748 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Kc Ac ]
deadfinmoney folds.
Wet_Bandit99 raises [325].
HERO is all-In [2815]
jalin9 folds.
Wet_Bandit99 folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins 3365 chips
Game #2520334254 starts.

#Game No : 2520334254
***** Hand History for Game 2520334254 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14761748 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Friday, August 12, 00:29:38 EDT 2005
Table Table 11657 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 7: Wet_Bandit99 ( $1695 )
Seat 6: deadfinmoney ( $1635 )
Seat 8: HERO ( $3365 )
Seat 9: jalin9 ( $1305 )
Trny:14761748 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Qd 7s ]
Wet_Bandit99 folds.
HERO folds.
jalin9 folds.
deadfinmoney does not show cards.
deadfinmoney wins 225 chips
Game #2520335101 starts.

#Game No : 2520335101
***** Hand History for Game 2520335101 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14761748 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Friday, August 12, 00:29:47 EDT 2005
Table Table 11657 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 7: Wet_Bandit99 ( $1695 )
Seat 6: deadfinmoney ( $1710 )
Seat 8: HERO ( $3365 )
Seat 9: jalin9 ( $1230 )
Trny:14761748 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 4d 6s ]
HERO folds.
jalin9 folds.
deadfinmoney folds.
Wet_Bandit99 does not show cards.
Wet_Bandit99 wins 300 chips
Game #2520336066 starts.

#Game No : 2520336066
***** Hand History for Game 2520336066 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14761748 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Friday, August 12, 00:29:56 EDT 2005
Table Table 11657 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 7: Wet_Bandit99 ( $1795 )
Seat 6: deadfinmoney ( $1610 )
Seat 8: HERO ( $3365 )
Seat 9: jalin9 ( $1230 )
Trny:14761748 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 4h 8s ]
jalin9 folds.
deadfinmoney folds.
Wet_Bandit99 calls [100].
HERO checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, 6s, 2d ]
Wet_Bandit99 bets [200].
HERO raises [400].
Wet_Bandit99 folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins 1000 chips
Game #2520338035 starts.

#Game No : 2520338035
***** Hand History for Game 2520338035 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14761748 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Friday, August 12, 00:30:16 EDT 2005
Table Table 11657 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 7: Wet_Bandit99 ( $1395 )
Seat 6: deadfinmoney ( $1610 )
Seat 8: HERO ( $3765 )
Seat 9: jalin9 ( $1230 )
Trny:14761748 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 2h 9c ]
deadfinmoney folds.
Wet_Bandit99 folds.
HERO folds.
jalin9 does not show cards.
jalin9 wins 300 chips
Game #2520338945 starts.

#Game No : 2520338945
***** Hand History for Game 2520338945 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14761748 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Friday, August 12, 00:30:25 EDT 2005
Table Table 11657 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 7: Wet_Bandit99 ( $1395 )
Seat 6: deadfinmoney ( $1610 )
Seat 8: HERO ( $3665 )
Seat 9: jalin9 ( $1330 )
Trny:14761748 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 5c 8h ]
Wet_Bandit99 is all-In [1395]
HERO folds.
jalin9 folds.
deadfinmoney folds.
Wet_Bandit99 does not show cards.
Wet_Bandit99 wins 1695 chips
Game #2520340169 starts.

#Game No : 2520340169
***** Hand History for Game 2520340169 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14761748 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Friday, August 12, 00:30:37 EDT 2005
Table Table 11657 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 7: Wet_Bandit99 ( $1695 )
Seat 6: deadfinmoney ( $1410 )
Seat 8: HERO ( $3665 )
Seat 9: jalin9 ( $1230 )
Trny:14761748 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Jh Jc ]
HERO is all-In [3665]
jalin9 folds.
deadfinmoney folds.
Wet_Bandit99 folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins 3965 chips
Game #2520341488 starts.

#Game No : 2520341488
***** Hand History for Game 2520341488 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14761748 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Friday, August 12, 00:30:50 EDT 2005
Table Table 11657 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 7: Wet_Bandit99 ( $1495 )
Seat 6: deadfinmoney ( $1310 )
Seat 8: HERO ( $3965 )
Seat 9: jalin9 ( $1230 )
Trny:14761748 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Qs 7s ]
jalin9 folds.
deadfinmoney folds.
Wet_Bandit99 raises [325].
HERO folds.
Wet_Bandit99 does not show cards.
Wet_Bandit99 wins 625 chips
Game #2520343267 starts.

#Game No : 2520343267
***** Hand History for Game 2520343267 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14761748 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Friday, August 12, 00:31:08 EDT 2005
Table Table 11657 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 7: Wet_Bandit99 ( $1695 )
Seat 6: deadfinmoney ( $1310 )
Seat 8: HERO ( $3765 )
Seat 9: jalin9 ( $1230 )
Trny:14761748 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ks Kc ]
deadfinmoney folds.
Wet_Bandit99 folds.
HERO is all-In [3665]
jalin9 is all-In [1030]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2s, 9s, 2c ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3s ]
** Dealing River ** [ 5h ]
HERO shows [ Ks, Kc ] two pairs, kings and twos.
jalin9 shows [ 7d, 7s ] two pairs, sevens and twos.
HERO wins 2535 chips from side pot #1 with two pairs, kings and twos.
HERO wins 2460 chips from the main pot with two pairs, kings and twos.
jalin9 finished in fourth place.
jalin9 has left the table.
Game #2520345458 starts.

#Game No : 2520345458
***** Hand History for Game 2520345458 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14761748 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Friday, August 12, 00:31:30 EDT 2005
Table Table 11657 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 7: Wet_Bandit99 ( $1695 )
Seat 6: deadfinmoney ( $1310 )
Seat 8: HERO ( $4995 )
Trny:14761748 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
There is no Small Blind in this hand as the Big Blind of the previous hand left the table.
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 3c Ah ]
Wet_Bandit99 folds.
HERO is all-In [4995]
deadfinmoney is all-In [1110]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ks, Ad, Qc ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4c ]
** Dealing River ** [ 5s ]
deadfinmoney shows [ Ac, 8s ] a pair of aces.
HERO shows [ 3c, Ah ] a pair of aces.
HERO wins 3685 chips from side pot #1 with a pair of aces.
deadfinmoney wins 2620 chips from the main pot with a pair of aces with eight kicker.
Game #2520347172 starts.

#Game No : 2520347172
***** Hand History for Game 2520347172 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14761748 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Friday, August 12, 00:31:47 EDT 2005
Table Table 11657 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 7: Wet_Bandit99 ( $1695 )
Seat 6: deadfinmoney ( $2620 )
Seat 8: HERO ( $3685 )
Trny:14761748 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 2c As ]
deadfinmoney is all-In [2620]
Wet_Bandit99 folds.
HERO folds.
deadfinmoney does not show cards.
deadfinmoney wins 2920 chips
Game #2520348282 starts.

#Game No : 2520348282
***** Hand History for Game 2520348282 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14761748 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Friday, August 12, 00:31:58 EDT 2005
Table Table 11657 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 7: Wet_Bandit99 ( $1595 )
Seat 6: deadfinmoney ( $2920 )
Seat 8: HERO ( $3485 )
Trny:14761748 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Jd Td ]
Wet_Bandit99 raises [475].
HERO folds.
deadfinmoney folds.
Wet_Bandit99 does not show cards.
Wet_Bandit99 wins 775 chips
Game #2520350160 starts.

#Game No : 2520350160
***** Hand History for Game 2520350160 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14761748 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Friday, August 12, 00:32:17 EDT 2005
Table Table 11657 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 7: Wet_Bandit99 ( $1895 )
Seat 6: deadfinmoney ( $2720 )
Seat 8: HERO ( $3385 )
Trny:14761748 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Jh 7d ]
HERO is all-In [3385]
deadfinmoney folds.
Wet_Bandit99 is all-In [1595]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Td, 2d, 4d ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9c ]
** Dealing River ** [ Tc ]
HERO shows [ Jh, 7d ] a pair of tens.
Wet_Bandit99 shows [ Th, Ac ] three of a kind, tens.
HERO wins 1490 chips from side pot #1 with a pair of tens.
Wet_Bandit99 wins 3940 chips from the main pot with three of a kind, tens.
Game #2520352757 starts.

#Game No : 2520352757
***** Hand History for Game 2520352757 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14761748 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Friday, August 12, 00:32:43 EDT 2005
Table Table 11657 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 7: Wet_Bandit99 ( $3940 )
Seat 6: deadfinmoney ( $2570 )
Seat 8: HERO ( $1490 )
Trny:14761748 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Th Ad ]
deadfinmoney folds.
Wet_Bandit99 folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins 450 chips
Game #2520353857 starts.

#Game No : 2520353857
***** Hand History for Game 2520353857 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14761748 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Friday, August 12, 00:32:54 EDT 2005
Table Table 11657 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 7: Wet_Bandit99 ( $3790 )
Seat 6: deadfinmoney ( $2570 )
Seat 8: HERO ( $1640 )
Trny:14761748 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 6h Qd ]
Wet_Bandit99 folds.
HERO folds.
deadfinmoney does not show cards.
deadfinmoney wins 450 chips
Game #2520354894 starts.

#Game No : 2520354894
***** Hand History for Game 2520354894 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14761748 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Friday, August 12, 00:33:04 EDT 2005
Table Table 11657 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 7: Wet_Bandit99 ( $3790 )
Seat 6: deadfinmoney ( $2720 )
Seat 8: HERO ( $1490 )
Trny:14761748 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ts 7s ]
HERO is all-In [1490]
deadfinmoney folds.
Wet_Bandit99 folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins 1940 chips
Game #2520356127 starts.

#Game No : 2520356127
***** Hand History for Game 2520356127 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14761748 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Friday, August 12, 00:33:17 EDT 2005
Table Table 11657 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 7: Wet_Bandit99 ( $3490 )
Seat 6: deadfinmoney ( $2570 )
Seat 8: HERO ( $1940 )
Trny:14761748 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 6s 6c ]
deadfinmoney folds.
Wet_Bandit99 raises [1250].
HERO is all-In [1640]
Wet_Bandit99 calls [540].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9h, Kh, 8h ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4h ]
** Dealing River ** [ As ]
Wet_Bandit99 shows [ 5c, Ac ] a pair of aces.
HERO shows [ 6s, 6c ] a pair of sixes.
Wet_Bandit99 wins 3880 chips from the main pot with a pair of aces.
HERO finished in third place and won $20.
ouch
HERO has left the table.
Game #2520359756 starts.

tigerite
08-12-2005, 09:16 AM
Bubble seems mostly ok, maybe you could have pushed one or two hands, and not sure about the fold with the Q7s, but I guess it's okay. ITM is awful:

Game No : 2520348282
***** Hand History for Game 2520348282 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14761748 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Friday, August 12, 00:31:58 EDT 2005
Table Table 11657 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 7: Wet_Bandit99 ( $1595 )
Seat 6: deadfinmoney ( $2920 )
Seat 8: HERO ( $3485 )
Trny:14761748 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Jd Td ]
Wet_Bandit99 raises [475].
HERO folds.
deadfinmoney folds.
Wet_Bandit99 does not show cards.
Wet_Bandit99 wins 775 chips

I think you should push this, you have a lot of FE, and a pretty good hand anyway.

#Game No : 2520350160
***** Hand History for Game 2520350160 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14761748 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Friday, August 12, 00:32:17 EDT 2005
Table Table 11657 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 7: Wet_Bandit99 ( $1895 )
Seat 6: deadfinmoney ( $2720 )
Seat 8: HERO ( $3385 )
Trny:14761748 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Jh 7d ]
HERO is all-In [3385]
deadfinmoney folds.
Wet_Bandit99 is all-In [1595]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Td, 2d, 4d ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9c ]
** Dealing River ** [ Tc ]
HERO shows [ Jh, 7d ] a pair of tens.
Wet_Bandit99 shows [ Th, Ac ] three of a kind, tens.
HERO wins 1490 chips from side pot #1 with a pair of tens.
Wet_Bandit99 wins 3940 chips from the main pot with three of a kind, tens.

What are you doing? This I fold 100% of the time.

#Game No : 2520353857
***** Hand History for Game 2520353857 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14761748 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Friday, August 12, 00:32:54 EDT 2005
Table Table 11657 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 7: Wet_Bandit99 ( $3790 )
Seat 6: deadfinmoney ( $2570 )
Seat 8: HERO ( $1640 )
Trny:14761748 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 6h Qd ]
Wet_Bandit99 folds.
HERO folds.
deadfinmoney does not show cards.
deadfinmoney wins 450 chips

This I push 100% of the time.


Well ok the 100%'s might be slight exaggerations but I am sure these are the right moves here.

bennies
08-12-2005, 09:32 AM
Of the 3 mentioned, the last I feel is the biggest mistake. Q6 heads from sb with only 5½ times the bb is a strong push. The second hand (J7) is probably a minor mistake and the 1st one (JT) I'm not to sure about.

Otherwise I think you did well.

tigerite
08-12-2005, 09:35 AM
The JT hand I was basing on reads, he was min raising and folding to a reraise a lot during the hands that he posted, I assume he will do it again, and probably has a marginal hand to boot.

I just don't like the J7 move, you have >10bb and it's too likely one of them will look you up here, people take chances a lot more ITM. Maybe it's just me but that's not my style to push that there.

08-12-2005, 09:37 AM
[ QUOTE ]

Game No : 2520348282
***** Hand History for Game 2520348282 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14761748 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Friday, August 12, 00:31:58 EDT 2005
Table Table 11657 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 7: Wet_Bandit99 ( $1595 )
Seat 6: deadfinmoney ( $2920 )
Seat 8: HERO ( $3485 )
Trny:14761748 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Jd Td ]
Wet_Bandit99 raises [475].
HERO folds.
deadfinmoney folds.
Wet_Bandit99 does not show cards.
Wet_Bandit99 wins 775 chips

I think you should push this, you have a lot of FE, and a pretty good hand anyway.



[/ QUOTE ]

I agree with you on the other two hands, but I dont think I would push this. Villian put in a raise that, to me, shows he wants a call. Id hate to have a "typical" 10+1er call me w/Ax,Kx,Qx. Which is very possible. I want to get my chips in there when Im ahead.

But I will give credit that he could just as easily fold after putting in 1/3 of his stack. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

45suited
08-12-2005, 09:53 AM
I think that Tigerite nailed it. The J7 hand, I would never push. Not pushing the Q6 hand from the SB was inexcusable. The TJs hand, I think that you could have at least called and seen a flop. But the first two hands that I mentioned were big mistakes, IMO. Why would you push J7 as first to act, but fold Q6 from the SB?

tigerite
08-12-2005, 10:01 AM
I was actually going to suggest stop and go the JTs hand, but thought I'd get slaughtered for it, lol. I think it's marginal push, I don't hate the fold, just that this guy seems very weak-tight from the previous plays..

45suited
08-12-2005, 10:07 AM
[ QUOTE ]
I was actually going to suggest stop and go the JTs hand, but thought I'd get slaughtered for it, lol. I think it's marginal push, I don't hate the fold, just that this guy seems very weak-tight from the previous plays..

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I was thinking the same thing. If the guy was raising with something like A8 and we pull a stop-n-go, that would have probably worked, whereas pushing over the top pre-flop likely wouldn't have.

But I don't hate his fold. The J7 and Q6 hands were terrible.

maryfield48
08-12-2005, 10:14 AM
Is it considered good strategy to open push premium hands? Hero did so with J-J and K-K, in both hands he had his opponents covered. Why not play to win more chips with these hands?

bennies
08-12-2005, 10:18 AM
defending my take on the J7...

If I put sb on "loose" calling standards and bb on "maniac" calling standards it is a break even move according to icm.

I'd still fold it though (because bb will probably call even more than the "maniac" 21%)

tigerite
08-12-2005, 11:16 AM
Yeah, by ICM it very well might be marginally +EV but it's just not a move I make at these lower levels, I believe I can outplay them enough ITM and HU that I can pass up on something like 0.1-0.2%, like I say, just my style..

TWINUNO
08-12-2005, 05:27 PM
These guys were playing pretty weak, so i figured if i pushed there was a better chance of calling then raising either way i wasnt gonna get a call, Limping seemed bad since i diddnt want them to hit something crazy like a two pair or so.