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wackjob
08-12-2005, 04:36 AM
Typical blind_stealer_donker raises from CO. I call SB with Q10o. BB calls.

Flop 235 rainbow. I check, BB bets, CO folds. I call.
Turn Q. I (?)

(I check-raised.)
Drontier
08-12-2005, 04:40 AM
regardless how muhc he steals, tihs is an easy muck preflop. muck flop. but given circumstances, c/r turn
Nietzsche
08-12-2005, 04:44 AM
Preflop is real ugly IMO. Flop I either bet or fold depending on the other opponents. Turn I CR.
wackjob
08-12-2005, 04:54 AM
The last hand the guy stole raised & showed down as 49o. Thus the terrible PF call from the SB with Q10o(my least favorite hand of all time). I figured the donkbet from the BB on the flop was with a 4. He showed down Q5o however & my Q10 was good.
Nietzsche
08-12-2005, 04:58 AM
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The last hand the guy stole raised & showed down as 49o.

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Oh, that kind of donk. Love those /images/graemlins/grin.gif
I still hate the SB position too much to be calling here though.
pfkaok
08-12-2005, 05:04 AM
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The last hand the guy stole raised & showed down as 49o.

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If he's stealing with everything, then 3bet.
clownshoes
08-12-2005, 05:06 AM
3 betting him PF is much better than calling
pfkaok
08-12-2005, 05:10 AM
if its not a 2/3 SB, then you could do well to never call from SB.
oreogod
08-12-2005, 05:14 AM
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if its not a 2/3 SB, then you could do well to never call from SB.

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agreed. If this is 3/6 easy muck. 15/30 not so.
wackjob
08-12-2005, 05:16 AM
Its 5/10.

"If he's stealing with everything, then 3bet. "

I agree with this & in hindsight wish I had 3-bet.
oreogod
08-12-2005, 05:20 AM
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Its 5/10.

"If he's stealing with everything, then 3bet. "

I agree with this & in hindsight wish I had 3-bet.

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To be honest when I first read the hand...I was going to tell u to three bet. But you are in the SB at 5/10 and Im not so sure its worth it here.

Now if you are in the BB, totally different story. I 3-bet there easily.
pfkaok
08-12-2005, 05:30 AM
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But you are in the SB at 5/10 and Im not so sure its worth it here.

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It depends if his shown 49o is an abberation, or if he really is raising here 75%+ of the time. if he's usually sane with his steals easy muck... if he really is a total donk steal-machine, then easy 3bet. if you don't have more specifics than him just showing a 49o then i'd lean towards fold. but raising probably can't be too bad, esp if he sucks postflop. I'd have to guess that it'd be about breakeven if his PFR was in the 45-50% range.