whats the deal with the lock

[bambi]

what happened with the 99 thread, did i lock it somehow or whats going on?

I think they didn't like it because it was a "blowing off steam/no content" post. Sklansky says with 3-5 players a flop you should be raising 99 from middle position, late position, SB, and BB. If there is no raise. So keep playing them, you are probably just getting unlucky. Hope to flop a set, and slowdown/fold if theres any action with overcards on the board.

[cmwck]

Calling 99 a trash hand looks like you're trolling.

[bambi]

I actually posted this, after i saw how harsh my first post was but it wasnt allowed.

"What i meant to say was, how are you guys playing 99, i seem to be raising from early position only to get three bet or called down by the blinds when they have hit any paint card, obviously if you are getting the odds in late position to hit your set the hand plays itself, but what about early position?

I havent come off in front when raising from EP, also i tend to find folding is the best in MP when there is an early position raiser?

Thoughts?

ps, apologies to the brass upstairs this was supposed to be a helpful post

don't raise 99 in early position....as you have found out it is not profitable. Look at the preflop recommendations in Small Stakes Holdem. (3-5 players on average to flop). It is on page 80-81

[bambi]

So its a fold in EP, and that would obviously be the same for all pp lower.

[shant]

I raise 99 UTG.

[clownshoes]

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I raise 99 UTG.

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Damn right

[ArturiusX]

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I raise 99 UTG.

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Me too. Sometimes 88 if the tables really tight.

[bambi]

What about a loose table where its not uncommon for 2 or three people to call two cold with two paint cards?

[ArturiusX]

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What about a loose table where its not uncommon for 2 or three people to call two cold with two paint cards?

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Limp it then, it doesn't really matter.

I think you'll show a greater profit after 200 000 hands raising it up, but if you don't want to because you dont feel comfortable postflop, fine.

[bambi]

No need to be a dick.

tell me why you raise it up all the time from EP?

[toss]

99 is a lot better than the majority of hands your opponents will call with. Also if the tables tight you'll often be up against one or two players sometimes in position. I raise 77 UTG at some of the tables I play.

[bambi]

what about when the board comes AKx, maybe i have been pushing those two hard?

[toss]

The board isn't always going to be favorable. Lets say you raise 99 UTG and get one caller on the Button and one caller on the BB. Flop is AK7, BB checks, you bet, Button calls, BB calls. If the turn is not a 9, I'm going to be checking a lot of the time unless I have areason to believe villains are calling with inferior hands. 99 won't hold up like a bigger pair, but it holds up enough to make raising profitable.

[bambi]

thx toss

i think the problem has been that i didnt quite understand that it will only win 50% of the time against overs, its only a small edge however an edge none the least, will have to chose what pots i play strongly against and ones i dont, funny thing its only this hand, probably just on a bad run with it.

[ArturiusX]

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No need to be a dick.


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I'm not /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[chief444]

bambi,

It can be a tricky hand to play out of position. Certainly you neeed to realize when to get away from it and when not to. But I'll also raise it from EP more often than not. If the tables really loose then I may limp. But it's postflop that gets tricky. Posting some specific hands you're unsure about for discussion will probably help more than any general discussion. I don't expect at a typical table though that it matters much how it's played preflop from EP. Either way if you play well postflop it should eventually be showing a decent profit.

Chief

[HolyBejeesus]

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what about when the board comes AKx, maybe i have been pushing those two hard?

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This is not about playing 9-9, it's about playing well postflop. If the flop comes AKx, bet the flop to represent the ace and don't put any more money in the pot unless you hit a 9.

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So its a fold in EP, and that would obviously be the same for all pp lower.

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Its not a fold its a call in EP, for me at least