Magic Antonio's view of limit hold'em

[deepdowntruth]

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Is Antonio right?

[XXXNoahXXX]

Yes.

[Klepton]

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Is Antonio a douche?

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FYP

yes.

[baronzeus]

I'm glad he knows how to spell.

[bdk3clash]

Yup. I've often said that limit hold'em is retarted.

[Sykes]

Why are we even listening to him anyways? He won one tournament (and it wasn't the WSOP main event). Big deal.

He seems like a giant fish to me.

[edge]

HE IS SO ROCKS AND RINGS MAN

[sthief09]

it's retarted is almost as good as your retarded

[benfranklin]

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it's retarted is almost as good as your retarded

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Thats rediculous.

[arkady]

what an utterly ignorant statement. limit has just as many complex situations as NL. I imagine there are groups of people who believe one is more complex than the other, but Antonio's statement is sad at best.

[J. Sawyer]

he's a tool

[CanKid]

Reminds me of people who say golf is a pussy sport

[smartalecc5]

I used to saying golf is the most boring sport in the world. Man, I am happy to hit the ball straight when I play. Hats off to those pros.

[jacki]

He says it's retarted?
What a jopke.

[BottlesOf]

fantastic avatar

[lighterjobs]

i wonder what the rest of the guys handle is that says 34inchw...

[timprov]

He must have played at Party.

[Swedebubba]

How do you know this is Antonio the magician?

[timprov]

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How do you know this is Antonio the magician?

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It appears to be his table on UB.

[mdeck]

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I used to saying golf is the most boring sport in the world. Man, I am happy to hit the ball straight when I play. Hats off to those pros.

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It's fun to play, but I find it boring as hell to watch on TV

[Entity]

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Yup. I've often said that limit hold'em is retarted.

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Now thats just moranic.

[smartalecc5]

anyone have a link to that picture with the cardinals sign holding up the picture about the moran?

[deepdowntruth]

Not his table, but that's his username. It's funny when he sits down at the lower limits how many '1.4s' and 'Rocks and Rings' etc. he gets. He'll never live those down. And that 'Poker Wave' he does on TV...ugh. Does he think he's Randy Moss or something?

Both games require a great deal of subtlety and attention to win, but in pretty different regards. If I can psychologize for a bit (having no actual knowledge of him or psychology) somehow I've always thought he was overcompensating for poor self-esteem by showing up other players, acting like a dolt, insulting their physical appearance, etc.. In limit hold'em, there is really no way to make a decent player look like a complete idiot; the "big bluff" isn't possible, elaborate traps just don't happen. In No-Limit though, you can "make moves" and win with absolutely nothing, making the other players embarrassed and feeling foolish. I bet he gets off on it and gives a jolt to his pseudo-self-esteem at the expense of others. And hey, his endeavor before poker was what? Magic. Fooling people, showing them up, and getting the best of them. Can't be a coincidence.

I think he's just an insecure little boy lashing out at the world, and something as mathematical and subtle as limit hold'em is lost on him, i.e., "retarted".

Anyway, the above is complete BS and I have no idea what I'm talking about, but it is convincing to me.

:-P

[theredwave]

I hate to link to one of my posts, but this was a good one from way back in March.
Another Retart (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=exchange&Number=1906814&Fo rum=All_Forums&Words=retarted&Searchpage=0&Limit=2 5&Main=1902060&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=1779 9&daterange=1&newerval=1&newertype=y&olderval=&old ertype=&bodyprev=#Post1906814)

[Alex/Mugaaz]

A little too artsy, but you certainly got the gist of it.

[smartalecc5]

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I hate to link to one of my posts, but this was a good one from way back in March.
Another Retart (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=exchange&Number=1906814&Fo rum=All_Forums&Words=retarted&Searchpage=0&Limit=2 5&Main=1902060&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=1779 9&daterange=1&newerval=1&newertype=y&olderval=&old ertype=&bodyprev=#Post1906814)

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awesome, thanks

[morello]

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Why are we even listening to him anyways? He won one tournament (and it wasn't the WSOP main event). Big deal.

He seems like a giant fish to me.

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He won a WPT (1.9m), a WSOP bracelet ($185k), as well as three other six-figure cashes. If you don't like him, fine. But clearly he has had a lot of success in tournaments.

(He's currently in the top 10 for the Cardplayer Player of the year award).

[SoftcoreRevolt]

Dude, this is clearly dangerous results based thinking which we do not allow around these parts.

[morello]

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i wonder what the rest of the guys handle is that says 34inchw...

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34inchwaist

You didn't think it would be wang, did you? I mean, unless Shaq plays online poker..

[Oblivious]

His girlfriend is supermodel-hot. He's obviously dysfunctional if the sight of her wrapped around his [censored] isnt enough to boost his ego, but when it comes to success, thats all that matters.

[Burno]

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it's retarted is almost as good as your retarded

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Thats rediculous.

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Well played.

[jba]

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His girlfriend is supermodel-hot. He's obviously dysfunctional if the sight of her wrapped around his [censored] isnt enough to boost his ego, but when it comes to success, thats all that matters.

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I saw the girl he was with at a wpt event last spring, and she was no supermodel. definitely cute but very, very far from supermodel. girl next door.

[CORed]

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Is Antonio right?

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If he thinks limit holdem is a "retarted game", he must be a moran. Or maybe an ideit. Boring? I guess that's a matter of personal taste.

[Rosie5]

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His girlfriend is supermodel-hot. He's obviously dysfunctional if the sight of her wrapped around his [censored] isnt enough to boost his ego, but when it comes to success, thats all that matters.

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I saw the girl he was with at a wpt event last spring, and she was no supermodel. definitely cute but very, very far from supermodel. girl next door.

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that bitch couldn't handle the rocks and rings lifestyle so he started going out with Shannon Elizabeth

[einbert]

Am I a douche for not liking Halo 2 or Madden 2045? Am I dumb because I prefer LHE to Omaha 8/b? Everyone is entitled to their own preferences. This thread is dumb.

[dogmeat]

He is right for Antonio - it's nothing but his own opinion. Develope your own opinion and enjoy your life.

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[MaxPower]

Isn't he supposed to be representing UB? Saying that isn't exactly what a spokesman should do.

You will never hear Mike Sexton say that the WPT is boring.

[sfer]

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You will never hear Mike Sexton say that the WPT is boring.

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Sexton would say, "Is the WPT boring? They don't know but we have the WPT cam and we can see that the WPT is in fact boring."

[Lady Dont Tekno]

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You will never hear Mike Sexton say that the WPT is boring.

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Sexton would say, "Is the WPT boring? They don't know but we have the WPT cam and we can see that the WPT is in fact boring."

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Well we've got some exciting poker action today, Vince.
*Waves pen around*

LDT

[adamstewart]

Wow,

I just lost a great deal of respect for Antonio. He's ignorant.

Personally, I play limit. I love it. I know (some of) the complexities of the game.

Accordingly, I play Limit instead of No Limit.

However, I also realize some of the (different) complexities of NL. I would never say that I think NL is "boring" or "stupid". It, too, is a great game.

NL and Limit are two different beasts. That is all.


Adam

[colson10]

Why does anyone care what Antonio thinks about limit holdem? Many of you sound insulted because you play limit. I'm sure he just personally finds limit holdem to be less interesting and less fun than NL. MANY PEOPLE FEEL THIS WAY. I play both, so I can appreciate them both. But there was a time when I too thought limit was boring.

As far as saying it was "retarted", whatever, just a passing comment. I don't take it to mean he thinks that people who play limit holdem are "retarted" or retarded.

Seriously, not a big deal.

colson10

[shant]

You just lost respect for him?

[adamstewart]

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But there was a time when I too thought limit was boring.


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... and then you became less ignorant.

[adamstewart]

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You just lost respect for him?

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Lol... i knew someone would reply with that. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[poker-penguin]

Limit holdem is 1.4!

[Your Mom]

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Is Antonio right?

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Translation: I'm too much of a fish to understand the game. I always lose at it.

[Shandrax]

Read "Poker Essays" for Mason's view on this topic. He claims that limit requires more skill, because it is very difficult to protect your hand. In NL you can just bet the pot and should be able to shut down the draws with it.

[CanKid]

I totally agree, I only watch the final day of the 4 major tournaments. When I was involved in baseball throughout my teens, I still couldn't stand watching it on tv.

[csuf_gambler]

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Read "Poker Essays" for Mason's view on this topic. He claims that limit requires more skill, because it is very difficult to protect your hand. In NL you can just bet the pot and should be able to shut down the draws with it.

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where can i read the poker essays

[Lawrence Ng]

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Is Antonio right?

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Translation: I'm too much of a fish to understand the game. I always lose at it.

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YOU WIN!!!!

Lawrence