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08-11-2005, 09:05 AM
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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG ($736.85)
MP ($97)
CO ($197)
Button ($283.05)
<font color="#C00000">SB ($270.50)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($200)</font>

Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $6</font>, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($12) T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($12) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $18</font>, SB calls $16.

River: ($48) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $138</font>, Hero

just sat down, but i have ~ 100 hands on villian, he is 63/26/1.6

08-11-2005, 09:15 AM
i would fold without a specific read.

Godfather80
08-11-2005, 09:18 AM
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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG ($736.85)
MP ($97)
CO ($197)
Button ($283.05)
<font color="#C00000">SB ($270.50)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($200)</font>

Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $6</font>, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($12) T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($12) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $18</font>, SB calls $16.

River: ($48) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $138</font>, Hero

just sat down, but i have ~ 100 hands on villian, he is 63/26/1.6

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I don't understand you flop check. I don't understand why you'd bet on the river when you won't be called by worse hands. I would unhappily fold to his checkraise and wonder why I didn't just take the free showdown and move on.

fuzzbox
08-11-2005, 09:26 AM
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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG ($736.85)
MP ($97)
CO ($197)
Button ($283.05)
<font color="#C00000">SB ($270.50)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($200)</font>

Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $6</font>, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($12) T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($12) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $18</font>, SB calls $16.

River: ($48) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $138</font>, Hero

just sat down, but i have ~ 100 hands on villian, he is 63/26/1.6

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I don't understand you flop check. I don't understand why you'd bet on the river when you won't be called by worse hands. I would unhappily fold to his checkraise and wonder why I didn't just take the free showdown and move on.

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You can easily be called by AK/AQ here. However the stats on this player do not indicate those hands (flop check). Most likely is AA or TT, given the way he played it.

I fold here.

taran
08-11-2005, 09:55 AM
Weird hand indeed. I'll call.
If he made a monster on flop he wouldn't lead that small on turn. He has to price flash draws.
If he has a set and made a full house on river what hand would call check raise that puts hero almost all in? I think SB put Hero on flash draw that missed

djoyce003
08-11-2005, 10:11 AM
this looks like one of those desperation river bluffs that I made a separate post about today.... here (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Number=3114610&amp;page=0&amp;view=colla psed&amp;sb=5&amp;o=14&amp;fpart=1)

That all being said, I can't see calling this without a read...he easily could have a set or hit trips.

fuzzbox
08-11-2005, 10:53 AM
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Weird hand indeed. I'll call.
If he made a monster on flop he wouldn't lead that small on turn. He has to price flash draws.
If he has a set and made a full house on river what hand would call check raise that puts hero almost all in? I think SB put Hero on flash draw that missed

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If thats the case then check/call does the job, why raise ?
I have never seen a river check/raise bluff (apart from one that I made myself that was called).

taran
08-11-2005, 11:07 AM
Because he is not beating a pair of A here, that hero might have as well. He is pushing hero of his hand either it is busted flush draw with Ah or not