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durron597

08-10-2005, 05:51 PM

The topic of this thread is "working on folding the second best hand". So without further ado, the second best hand:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP3 (t1480)
CO (t1530)
Button (t1460)
SB (t1630)
BB (t1480)
UTG (t1500)
Hero (t1480)
MP1 (t1460)
MP2 (t1480)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
1 fold, Hero calls t20, MP1 calls t20, 3 folds, Button calls t20, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t100) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets t80, MP1 folds, Button calls t80, SB calls t80, BB folds.

Turn: (t340) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t200, Button calls t200, SB calls t200.

River: (t940) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button bets t500, SB folds, Hero ???

TheSalche

08-10-2005, 05:58 PM

i think theres enough cards that beat you, and you've only put in 1/5 of your stack so that you can fold it ... but it'd suck doing it

bigt439

08-10-2005, 06:04 PM

Well this is quite obviously a fold. Your mistake is on the turn. Your bet is way too small against two opponents with a club draw and obvious straight draws. I would probably overbet the turn not half pot it.

durron597

08-10-2005, 06:24 PM

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I would probably overbet the turn not half pot it.

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Do you fold if he comes over the top?

jgunnip

08-10-2005, 07:27 PM

How bad would betting t150 or t175 on the flop be to prevent giving overcallers immediate odds to draw? What do you think the chances of getting this hand heads up are?

Building the pot to say 450-600 on the flop would set up a push on the turn if a safe card comes off, which it did. Now if they want to draw to their straight/flush/two pair so be it.

bigt439

08-10-2005, 11:50 PM

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I would probably overbet the turn not half pot it.

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Do you fold if he comes over the top?

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Definitely not. You don't have enough chips to fold this strong of a hand, and there are way too many hands he will push over top of you (two pair, pair draw combos, monster draws, etc.,).

jgunnip

08-11-2005, 01:59 AM

bump, just wondering what people think on my proposed line.

bigt439

08-11-2005, 12:30 PM

Not a bad line at all. It's harder to get raised that way, but that doesn't happen all that often anyways. I just think you can pot it and play the turn accordingly though. You do have a very strong hand and you don't want to completely drive everyone out, but your point about overcallers is a valid one.