View Full Version : for those that saw my earlier 'no-brainer' (JJ - yeah!)
bluefeet
08-10-2005, 01:55 AM
It's getting crunch-time. Shortie is UTG - not so worrysome. With villian's "step aside boys" minraise of the AI...uhboy....
27+2 Turbo
PokerStars Game #2304618295: Tournament #11121782, Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2005/08/10 - 01:26:10 (ET)
Table '11121782 1' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Jimbo Beam (4315 in chips)
Seat 2: beltedpig (3380 in chips)
Seat 3: bluefeet (1613 in chips)
Seat 5: CRITTER69 (1797 in chips)
Seat 7: Crock65 (1460 in chips)
Seat 9: Whyt Choklit (935 in chips)
CRITTER69: posts small blind 100
Crock65: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bluefeet [Js Jc]
Whyt Choklit: raises 735 to 935 and is all-in
Jimbo Beam: raises 735 to 1670
beltedpig: folds
<font color="blue">bluefeet ??? </font>
I think the poker gods are testing me for laying it down a couple hours ago.
What do YOU do?
I push.
You have 8BBs left. If the min-raiser had AA, KK, or QQ, he might just call and hope for other callers so he could punish them on the flop. A min-raise makes it seem as though he DOES have a hand he only wants to show down with shorty. Some possibilities could be anywhere from 55-TT, AK, AQs, AJs, but not KQs or any of that garbage.
I definitely push over top of the min-raiser here. If you win this hand you're cruising.
bluefeet
08-10-2005, 02:05 AM
yeah, but his 'minraise' is effectively a push for all but one on the table. a clear isolation move to get HU with shortie. but with what? if shortie's pushing any Ace/PP, you'd THINK big dog is sitting on AQish?
do i want to go 3-way here facing possibly all 3 overs, maybe an over pair? or, sit on my open-push opportunities?
I'm not certain about this, but I think you would see a smaller pocket pair and two overs (or only one over) more often than not.
Big stack, is, well, the big stack. He doesn't exactly need a monster to try and take out shortie.
I am going to bed. Please post results by morning. /images/graemlins/smile.gif
bluefeet
08-10-2005, 02:13 AM
just for you - but don't tell anyone (below):
<font color="white">*** RIVER *** [4c 8d 7c 4s] [6h]
Whyt Choklit: shows [8h As] (two pair, Eights and Fours)
Jimbo Beam: shows [Jd Qc] (a pair of Fours)
did end up busting big stack later on my way to 2nd...who knows, funny game
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I hate being in spots like this. If the re-raiser is capable of doing this with 99 and TT than this becomes a much easier push. You are probably up against overcards though and very possibly an over pair.
Blech, I hate you for posting this hand. I'd muck unless I had a read on the re-raiser since for the main pot you are going to be racing 3 handed and for the side pot, even if you win you will be losing money on the hand.
See by this point you should know how the big stack accumulated his chips and what he is most likely going to with them. Versus a TAG re-raise this is an easy fold. Versus drunk donks like you are playign this becomes much more of a call.
bluefeet
08-10-2005, 02:24 AM
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and for the side pot, even if you win you will be losing money on the hand.
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this is precisely why i folded. comparatively speaking, i still had a stack capable of pushing into my immediate left - with the chance to retain some FE despite the chance of folding through these blinds. finish 2nd here to shortie leaves me pushing 'any two' pretty quick.
on a quick side note: i had a weak-long break-even run, that was really testing my patience (key word). i spent time going through some hand history and found a glaring common denominator -- losing coin-flips CALLING the close ones. of course, we never know if/when opportunity will present itself having left behind a 'close call', but the results over the past few days - passing on these calls has been dramatac. eh...for what thats worth.
bluefeet
08-10-2005, 02:28 AM
funny you mention that (QJ!!?!?!?) - i keep meticulous
notes...i'm sitting down with 4-5 guys 'tagged' these days. this guy had simply gotten paid on monster hands. i was stunned to see what he flipped. three hands & three loses (final to my AA) later, he was gone -- all questionable hands. goes to show you a 'read' can be misleading, when your read is gathered by a few showdowns.
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