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downtown
08-09-2005, 05:39 PM
I hardly ever make moves like this, but I am trying to become more aggressive when I sense weakness. My read is that none of the limpers are trapping or being tricky. If that is your read <font color="red"> </font> , do you push here with any 2 or fold?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

SB (t1627)
Hero (t875)
UTG (t855)
UTG+1 (t515)
MP1 (t905)
MP2 (t1230)
CO (t1375)
Button (t618)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (or N-E 2).
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls t100, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls t100, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t875 (All-In)</font>
citanul
08-09-2005, 05:41 PM
looks good.

just avoid doing this when they're going to call even though they're weak.

citanul
KingDan
08-09-2005, 05:41 PM
Most important IMO is read of MP1.

Assuming you think he can fold his small pps I like a push.
Phil Van Sexton
08-09-2005, 08:08 PM
I probably wouldn't do this against 3 players at level 4. Against 1 limper and the SB with a read, OK. Against 2 and SB, I'm checking.

The fact that the button put a nice chunk of his shortstack in already is a concern as well. He'll be getting some good pot odds if MP1 folds....how often will he really fold and leave himself with 518?
45suited
08-09-2005, 08:18 PM
I really think that the risk / reward of your move was pretty bad, especially with the button's stack being so short.

Also, I think that the buy-in would make a difference. At an 11 or 22, MP1 is probably calling you with a mid pair.

Basically, you're risking your entire tournament when you're not desperate for chips.
downtown
08-09-2005, 11:03 PM
Thanks for the replies. The results: everyone folded and I took it down.

However, I didn't really think I picked the perfect spot, and in the future I think I like it a lot more if the blinds are one (or more) level higher than here and preferably when there is one less limper. I don't *need* this pot, but it was nice, and I think it's a good addition to any arsenal when properly applied. Thanks, PVS.