AK hand level 1

[schwza]

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UTG+1 (t800)
UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t800)
MP3 (t785)
CO (t840)
Button (t790)
SB (t785)
Hero (t800)
UTG (t800)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls t15, MP1 calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls t15, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t50</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls t40, Hero calls t35, UTG+2 calls t35, MP1 calls t35, MP3 folds.

Flop: (t265) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t170</font>, UTG+2 calls t170, MP1 folds, CO calls t170, SB calls t140.

Turn: (t945) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t150</font>, Hero?

[tigerite]

I'd have just called the flop, hoping for either someone further down the field to raise so I could push, or at the worst, take a card off, most of the deck is safe for you here, just spades that you fear. Unfortunately one came.. but now the pot is huge on the turn, and I wouldn't really know what to do here, probably fold and hate it because I can't believe that one of the 5 (?) or so in there won't have the flush here..

I fold. I also would raise pre-flop with ak.

[tigerite]

The call preflop is fine, no need to build a massive pot here

[Unarmed]

Make a real raise on the flop...

[durron597]

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Make a real raise on the flop...

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[gumpzilla]

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Make a real raise on the flop...

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I think the flop raise is okay. It's a little more than 1/2 pot to the remaining players, and I think you can't really expect all of them to hang around for that. It would be a different story if numerous players had already limped in, but given that they are facing the pot after schwza's bet with nothing already in I think it should be reasonably effective, usually. Given that they have all called, I find it difficult to believe that there isn't a flush out there.

[schwza]

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Make a real raise on the flop...

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yeah, i winced a little when i read the hh. i was worried a raise to, say, 230 over a minbet would look too scary and i'd lose marginal hands. in retrospect, i do like a bigger raise - somebody's usually going to want to go to the felt on that flop.

[ekky]

even if there isn't a flush out there, he can easily be freerolled by the A spades.. giving him split-at-best potential.

I lose all love for this hand after the turn, and treat it like the traitor it has become.

[schwza]

well said. i folded.

SB had a flush.

[durron597]

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well said. i folded.

SB had a flush.

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In a 5 way pot you are going to get action after that small flop raise. and as ekky said, much of the time you are now getting freerolled or chopping at best.

He could just have an A, or the ignorant end of the straight. Thats a small bet considering the size of the pot. I'd call.

[Maulik]

PF is interesting, by the time all the limpers get back and call there is already t135 in the pot.

You can either call or push PF and be happy about it. I prefer pushing because I'll likely get called by a worse Ace or any pocket pair. There are more than enough chips in here to compensate for being a slight dog to any lower pocketpair. Additionally, if you hit your hand there are so many limpers that TPTK isn't going to be good enough.

Push to isolate.

On the flop, I'm raising the the size the pot ~t300. Its way too draw heavy or giving great odds for someone to chip this pot with you or pick up a /images/graemlins/spade.gif cheaply.

[DyessMan89]

I just smooth call the flop. Im trying to keep the pot small, and keep the guys with 2 pair in that I might be able to bust. This is a good strategy early on, when your not in the mood to commit all your chips. This also lets you off on the turn if a trouble card hits. (like it did)

[fnord_too]

I think crying is an appropriate response. Maybe raise more on the flop. When I first started answering, I didn't realize there were still 4 people. I think you have to let this one go. Too great a chance you are either already beat by the flush or someone is freerolling so you are playing for 1/2 a pot (or 1/3 a pot).

[11t]

I'd cuss at them in chat.

You are in a really awful position. I think you gotta raise more on the flop cus this is so draw heavy and any ace or king or the board pairing or any spade could easily corrupt your hand.

That being said with like 4 ppl to the turn on this board after a bet/re-raise I garuntee you are either splitting this pot or are drawing dead. I'd run to the bathroom, puke, then run back and fold.