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gomberg
08-09-2005, 09:27 AM
First hand 10-20 vs. couple fish 6 handed table

I'm in BB w/ 2k w/ AQo.

Folded to SB w/ $500. He completes, I raise to $60, He reraises to $180, Hero...

What type of range does a 25BB player in a 10-20 game have here?

Note: I didn't sit down cause of the SB, but figured he's probably crappy due to sitting there with $500 - but hadn't watched the play at all before sitting.

KaneKungFu123
08-09-2005, 09:33 AM
easy fold. not close.

gomberg
08-09-2005, 09:52 AM
I agree it's a fold given certain hand ranges - but what are they here for a typical short handed 25BB stack?

XXXNoahXXX
08-09-2005, 10:41 AM
QQ-AA. I'd probably convince myself JJ too so I can make a bad call, but in all reality you're probably not in a good spot here. He'll probably take the $100 and leave the table as happy as a clam that he outsmarted a high limit player blufifng with garbage..then go back to the 25NL tables.

KaneKungFu123
08-09-2005, 11:00 AM
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I agree it's a fold given certain hand ranges - but what are they here for a typical short handed 25BB stack?

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tt-aa most of the time.

captZEEbo1
08-09-2005, 12:23 PM
I PUSH here 100% of the time. You'd be surprised how often it's a weaker ace than yours, low pp or KJ or random stuff.

AZK
08-09-2005, 01:35 PM
I was gonna say push too, KKF why are you so quick to assume a 500 stack has us crushed?

Matt Flynn
08-09-2005, 02:35 PM
if you are not already annoyed by him limp-reraising from the small blind, you should fold as Kane says. if he has been making it a habit, you have the option of calling or reraising. reraising punishes him more.

matt

captZEEbo1
08-09-2005, 02:46 PM
I hate calling to see a flop, if he has a dominated ace, most likely he wins the pot. However, he will probably call allin with many dominated hands.

gomberg
08-09-2005, 02:49 PM
I ended up pushing and he called w/ KK.

After doing some sims on this - I think it is a fold until I get a read that his range is VERY wide. Even if he does this with every pair and AK-AJ,ATs, I'm only at 45%. Given I had no read - I just figured that his small stack probably made his range wide... but even if it is wide, it's still marginal unless he's doing this with worse aces or queens regularly.

RikaKazak
08-10-2005, 02:45 AM
Where do you guys get these sims? Do you just do card player over and over again? or is there one where you put in lots of hands?

fimbulwinter
08-10-2005, 02:46 AM
www.pokerstove.com (http://www.pokerstove.com) .....

RikaKazak
08-10-2005, 02:52 AM
thanks man, just got it, interesting stuff