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TheRonin
08-08-2005, 11:17 PM
Baltimore Ravens Over 10 (-105)
Under 10 (-125)
I'm think the under is a steal.

What do you guys think?
I'm thinking under for 2 reasons
1. Kyle
2. Boller

MasterShakes
08-09-2005, 04:34 AM
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Baltimore Ravens Over 10 (-105)
Under 10 (-125)
I'm think the under is a steal.

What do you guys think?
I'm thinking under for 2 reasons
1. Kyle
2. Boller

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With all two of your reasons it seems extremely well thought out. /images/graemlins/confused.gif

hobbes9324
08-09-2005, 05:04 AM
Well - I would prefer the under to the over, but not because of Boller - actually, 10 seems about right - the strength of schedule is pretty tough (11th), but the defense is so good it keeps them in pretty much every game. I would guess that they are more likely to go 9-7 than 11-5.
But I think there are more attractive bets on the card......

Sluss
08-09-2005, 04:29 PM
Ravens look pretty good to me this year. They managed to actually improve their secondary with Rolle and Billick does a great job of making sure Kyle Boller hardly has to exist.

Plus they have great depth and a margin of error better than most NFL teams. Jamal Lewis gets hurt Chester Taylor is a good back-up, Boller gets hurt, no problem the quarterback position is basically unimportant to the Ravens. They would need to really be ravaged by injuries in the secondary or on the D-line to hurt themselves on defense.

I don't feel comfortable with the over or under here because I would think they will have 9,10,11 wins.


edited to say: Did you find these lines online?

LargeCents
08-10-2005, 04:45 AM
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Baltimore Ravens Over 10 (-105)
Under 10 (-125)
I'm think the under is a steal.

What do you guys think?
I'm thinking under for 2 reasons
1. Kyle
2. Boller

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Sun, Sep 11 Indianapolis Colts (.5)
Sun, Sep 18 @ Tennessee Titans (.6)
Sun, Oct 2 New York Jets (.6)
Sun, Oct 9 @ Detroit Lions (.6)
Sun, Oct 16 Cleveland Browns (.8)
Sun, Oct 23 @ Chicago Bears (.6)
Mon, Oct 31 @ Pittsburgh Steelers (.4)
Sun, Nov 6 Cincinnati Bengals (.6)
Sun, Nov 13 @ Jacksonville Jaguars (.6)
Sun, Nov 20 Pittsburgh Steelers (.6)
Sun, Nov 27 @ Cincinnati Bengals (.5)
Sun, Dec 4 Houston Texans (.6)
Sun, Dec 11 @ Denver Broncos (.5)
Mon, Dec 19 Green Bay Packers (.7)
Sun, Dec 25 Minnesota Vikings (.6)
Sun, Jan 1 @ Cleveland Browns (.6)

total wins = (9.4)

Adjust probabilities as you see fit, if you think I made any big mistakes.

MasterShakes
08-10-2005, 04:52 AM
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Baltimore Ravens Over 10 (-105)
Under 10 (-125)
I'm think the under is a steal.

What do you guys think?
I'm thinking under for 2 reasons
1. Kyle
2. Boller

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Sun, Sep 11 Indianapolis Colts (.5)
Sun, Sep 18 @ Tennessee Titans (.6)
Sun, Oct 2 New York Jets (.6)
Sun, Oct 9 @ Detroit Lions (.6)
Sun, Oct 16 Cleveland Browns (.8)
Sun, Oct 23 @ Chicago Bears (.6)
Mon, Oct 31 @ Pittsburgh Steelers (.4)
Sun, Nov 6 Cincinnati Bengals (.6)
Sun, Nov 13 @ Jacksonville Jaguars (.6)
Sun, Nov 20 Pittsburgh Steelers (.6)
Sun, Nov 27 @ Cincinnati Bengals (.5)
Sun, Dec 4 Houston Texans (.6)
Sun, Dec 11 @ Denver Broncos (.5)
Mon, Dec 19 Green Bay Packers (.7)
Sun, Dec 25 Minnesota Vikings (.6)
Sun, Jan 1 @ Cleveland Browns (.6)

total wins = (9.4)

Adjust probabilities as you see fit, if you think I made any big mistakes.

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In their 8 road games, you think they're even money or better in all but one of them?

scalf
08-10-2005, 09:26 AM
/images/graemlins/smirk.gif raven's d is getting old..

might be 7 win season

gl

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08-10-2005, 09:06 PM
i'd be careful shorting the ravens. They bulked up on offense with Mason, and I like the Clayton pick. Remember, you don't need a stud QB to win superbowls (see Dilfer)- this is a team that is predicated on a stifling defense and nasty ground attack.

The main thing you have going for you is the schedule. It's tough, and so is the division, with a tough pitt squad and an improving cincy.

LargeCents
08-10-2005, 10:14 PM
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Baltimore Ravens Over 10 (-105)
Under 10 (-125)
I'm think the under is a steal.

What do you guys think?
I'm thinking under for 2 reasons
1. Kyle
2. Boller

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Sun, Sep 11 Indianapolis Colts (.5)
Sun, Sep 18 @ Tennessee Titans (.6)
Sun, Oct 2 New York Jets (.6)
Sun, Oct 9 @ Detroit Lions (.6)
Sun, Oct 16 Cleveland Browns (.8)
Sun, Oct 23 @ Chicago Bears (.6)
Mon, Oct 31 @ Pittsburgh Steelers (.4)
Sun, Nov 6 Cincinnati Bengals (.6)
Sun, Nov 13 @ Jacksonville Jaguars (.6)
Sun, Nov 20 Pittsburgh Steelers (.6)
Sun, Nov 27 @ Cincinnati Bengals (.5)
Sun, Dec 4 Houston Texans (.6)
Sun, Dec 11 @ Denver Broncos (.5)
Mon, Dec 19 Green Bay Packers (.7)
Sun, Dec 25 Minnesota Vikings (.6)
Sun, Jan 1 @ Cleveland Browns (.6)

total wins = (9.4)

Adjust probabilities as you see fit, if you think I made any big mistakes.

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In their 8 road games, you think they're even money or better in all but one of them?

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Good question. The short answer: no.

Road games at Detroit, Chicago, Jacksonville, Cleveland, Tennessee, I'll give a decent edge to Baltimore.

But, at Denver and Cincinatti, I'd actually give an edge to the Broncos and Cincinatti, respectively. If I extended the decimal point further it might have been (.45) in those games, and I just rounded up.

Here's an updated listing going to further decimal points.

Sun, Sep 11 Indianapolis Colts (.50)
Sun, Sep 18 @ Tennessee Titans (.62)
Sun, Oct 2 New York Jets (.58)
Sun, Oct 9 @ Detroit Lions (.58)
Sun, Oct 16 Cleveland Browns (.79)
Sun, Oct 23 @ Chicago Bears (.61)
Mon, Oct 31 @ Pittsburgh Steelers (.41)
Sun, Nov 6 Cincinnati Bengals (.57)
Sun, Nov 13 @ Jacksonville Jaguars(.58)
Sun, Nov 20 Pittsburgh Steelers (.56)
Sun, Nov 27 @ Cincinnati Bengals (.45)
Sun, Dec 4 Houston Texans (.63)
Sun, Dec 11 @ Denver Broncos (.45)
Mon, Dec 19 Green Bay Packers (.75)
Sun, Dec 25 Minnesota Vikings (.65)
Sun, Jan 1 @ Cleveland Browns (.62)

total wins = (9.35)

Edit: total wins correction.

YoureToast
08-11-2005, 05:51 PM
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i'd be careful shorting the ravens. They bulked up on offense with Mason, and I like the Clayton pick. Remember, you don't need a stud QB to win superbowls (see Dilfer)- this is a team that is predicated on a stifling defense and nasty ground attack.

The main thing you have going for you is the schedule. It's tough, and so is the division, with a tough pitt squad and an improving cincy.

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They've lost their starting middle linebacker, Hartwell. Keep that in mind.

Sluss
08-12-2005, 07:36 AM
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They've lost their starting middle linebacker, Hartwell. Keep that in mind.

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They moved back to a 4-3. Ray Lewis is the middle linebacker. I think he'll be okay.