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08-08-2005, 08:52 PM
I have been playing online for a few months now. I have played a fair amount of SNGs to date and recorded all my data:

This far it is, in my opinion, very impressive, even though it is a small sample size:
180 games at the 5 + 0.5 and 10 + 1 level
ITM = 61.1%
ROI = 1.25
total profit = 2425$

My question is this: Should someone who has been relatively successful fairly quickly move up in buy-ins to the 20+2 or 30+3 if my bankroll is large enough or should I begin multi-tabling when I play?
I only play one tournement at a time and do it as a past time. (originally just to get better at my weekly table game until I realized that playing proper poker theory could be profitable) and I really don't know where to go from here? Multi tabling or higher buy-ins?

thanks

samr
08-08-2005, 08:58 PM
What site are you playing on?

08-08-2005, 08:59 PM
pokerroom

HighestCard
08-08-2005, 09:02 PM
I also play on pokerroom and I got my br started up by playing the 5's and 11's. Im 3 tabling the 22's now, but I recommend that you start two tabling the 11's, then work up to 4 (if you have the hardware to do so without overlap). You also need about 300 more tournies under your belt before I reccomend you moving up. I played ~ 500, 5's and 11's before the 22's came around...

ChuckNorris
08-08-2005, 09:13 PM
I won't comment much on your ITM/ROI, since I have no idea about pokerrooms structure. Obviously it's probable that you're not playing bad if you're results are this awesome even on a pretty small sample size.

I'd recommend you start getting used to multitabling, since it should be more profitable to play two tournaments at a game with $X buy-in, than one in a tournament with $2X buy-in, since the higher buy-ins usually are slightly tougher. And as a beginner I would like to become pretty confident in being a winning player before moving up, and your sample size is very small.

Very nice avatar by the way, welcome to the forum /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

david050173
08-08-2005, 10:02 PM
Why do you play poker and what are you hoping to get out of it? There is no shame in moving around in the buyins. Play a half dozen 20s, if you decide your not ready move down. As far as moving up versus multitabling. Multitabling is better for the pocket book, moving up for your poker skills.

psyduck
08-08-2005, 10:18 PM
??? You made $2425 from 5+1 and 10+1s? Or is that $24.25. And you ROI seems really low for these low limit SNGs...

cha59
08-08-2005, 10:23 PM
I think he means ROI 125%

raptor517
08-08-2005, 10:31 PM
if u got the roll and the confidence, you dont need any of our permission to move up. just paly where you are comfortable. once you step out of the comfort zone, you are in trouble. holla

08-09-2005, 12:04 AM
Yes, I meant my ROI as 125% sorry for the confusion.
Thanks for the advice guys, I am going to start trying some 10+1 at two tables, then move from there.
Im not sure if I am realy to move up in buy-ins, knowing that the caliber of play really is substantially higher. I will save that until I really feel comfortable at 2x 10 +1 and go from there. (asking questions on twoplustwo all along)

thanks again

08-09-2005, 12:13 AM
I started in 20s and its gone ok (20% roi, n=300). I think anyone who studies a bit (as you appear to be doing) should be able to beat 20's straight away. caveat: you need a much bigger bankroll and be willing to move down as needed. I found NL 25$ cash games to be great when needing low variance.

Nottom
08-09-2005, 12:45 AM
I'm a big believer in moving up whenever you bankroll allows until you no longer feel comfortable either because you start thinking about the money or because you feel you are being outplayed. There are a lot of people around here playing low limits with retardedly big BRs which seems silly to me especially if you are just playing casually.

Nottom
08-09-2005, 12:48 AM
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I think he means ROI 125%

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I'm pretty sure he means 25%

edit: wow, i guess not ... thats damn impressive over that size sample.

psyduck
08-09-2005, 02:41 AM
125% ROI over 160? WTF???

And you made 2K at 10+1s? That's not shabby at ALL. I moved up to the 20+2s as soon as I had $600 or so. I think it's about time you moved up.