River raise and fold to a 3bet?

[baronzeus]

How's this line? I normally just call the river but I figured he's somewhat aggro so he can pull that bullshit turn raise with only 2 pair or a set or something right? But he won't 3bet me without the straight so I'll know to fold if he 3bets right?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP calls, SB calls.

Flop: (13 SB) K/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls $2.50 (All-In), SB calls.

Turn: (7.91 BB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (11.91 BB) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>

[jba]

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How's this line? I normally just call the river but I figured he's somewhat aggro so he can pull that bullshit turn raise with only 2 pair or a set or something right? But he won't 3bet me without the straight so I'll know to fold if he 3bets right?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP calls, SB calls.

Flop: (13 SB) K/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls $2.50 (All-In), SB calls.

Turn: (7.91 BB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (11.91 BB) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>

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I like the raise but I don't think we can fold to a 3bet

villain has to put us on TT to think we have the straight, so our raise on the river will almost look like a bluff to him.

especially if he has seen you bet/fold much

[Lurker4]

River raise is mandatory, and call a 3-bet. He knows its very unlikely that you have a T, so he could easily 3-bet you here w/KK/QQ/JJ thinking you are raising the river w/AK/AQ/JJ/whatever. Folding to the 3-bet here, getting 17-1 after he 3-bets river, is really bad. Even more so b/c you say he is aggro. Save this move for more marginal hands, and in smaller pots against predictable/bad opponents.

[baronzeus]

So the consensus is to call a 3bet.

Thanks for your input guys





Results:

He just called my raise, and PP mucked for him. All-in dude said "KJs" and Villain said "QQ you moron nice suckout" and I said "I got lucky" and waited for the blinds to come back around /images/graemlins/grin.gif