JJ with 13bb and a raise in front?

[Isura]

Just got moved to this table, so no real reads. Should I fold this considering my position? Or is JJ too good here. With 13bb, do I push here and come he has AK and not QQ-AA? I'm not sure how much FE I have either, since he decided to raise with a limper already in. This is a Party $30 MTT.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP3 (t895)
CO (t3050)
Button (t1775)
SB (t3160)
BB (t2075)
UTG (t1375)
UTG+1 (t1220)
UTG+2 (t1000)
MP1 (t1965)
Hero (t1345)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t100, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t265</font>

[Exitonly]

I push here, AK, QQ+ is way to strong of a range to put him on without any reads. a ton of hands raise there and i think it's likely you take down the ~500 pot without a fight. Its too good of hand to fold, and i think too good to just call too.

Even against the range of hands that calls your all in, you're nearly even.

-Ray

[betgo]

Normally I would push. However. I would be concerned with the very small raise at the limper.

[m bozeman]

Well, remember, this is PartyPoker, where mini-raises are the norm. How many players entered the tournament? How many are left? How many spots pay? These factors might help you decide to just call, with position, or push all-in.

I think in this position I fold and wait for a better spot. Too many left to act behind me, including the real possibility that UTG+1 will make a move. Two early actors make me suspicious, and I agree that the small raise is odd coming from that position. Seems like he wants action.

Close call. A push will probably either take down the pot or kick you from the tournament.

[woodguy]

Tough one.


IF we put his re-raising range at AA-TT, AK-AJ, you are a slight dog to that range, but the dead $$$ in the pot makes is about an even $$$ move, add to that some folding equity, and you have a +EV move, although its close.

I push here as I hate the 13BB range and often feel handcuffed, so the extra BB's are worth more to me when I have that stack.

Give me 20ish BB's and I probably get more cautious, but in this spot I like the opportunity to gain.

Folding wouldn't be horribly weak tight.

Regards,
Woodguy

[Isura]

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Well, remember, this is PartyPoker, where mini-raises are the norm. How many players entered the tournament? How many are left? How many spots pay? These factors might help you decide to just call, with position, or push all-in.

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900+, about 450 left (just started 2nd hour). Still far from the money.

[2005]

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Folding wouldn't be horribly weak tight.

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Being (one of)the least weak tight of the regular posters, I disagree with this statement. I think this is a really easy push.

[woodguy]

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Being (one of)the least weak tight of the regular posters, I disagree with this statement. I think this is a really easy push

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Yah, but you're a lag, and I was trying to be nice. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Regards,
Woodguy

[Prime Time]

nice avatar, because of the eyes. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Hextallin]

Wow, I really like that avatar!

I feel like I see a lot of players busting out in the middle stages of the 30 + 3 tourneys on party by pushing with Tens, Jacks, or Queens in this situation. Having just sat down at the table and little to base your decisions on I wait for a better spot and fold without getting involved.

~Hex

[adanthar]

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Folding wouldn't be horribly weak tight.

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Given I just busted out of a Super to a guy whose 50/100 minraise after 2 limpers was A5o, oh yes it would.

[woodguy]

Your're right, I was being soft.

So you feel better, I busted out of the Super to A7o.

Regards,
Woodguy

[2005]

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Wow, I really like that avatar!

I feel like I see a lot of players busting out in the middle stages of the 30 + 3 tourneys on party by pushing with Tens, Jacks, or Queens in this situation. Having just sat down at the table and little to base your decisions on I wait for a better spot and fold without getting involved.

~Hex

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Just because alot of people are going broke with TT, JJ, and QQ in the middle of these tournaments doesn't mean it's wrong

[Isura]

The villain had AK this time. A weird raise for AK here, I wonder what's going through the donk's head sometimes.

[EverettKings]

You gotta push this.

Suspicious raises turn out to be monster hands far, far less often than you think at low buyin party MTTs. He may call with ATo or 55, wouldn't shock me. With 515 chips already in there and only 1300 in front of you, it's go time.

-Kings