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45suited
08-08-2005, 03:52 AM
At what buy-in could you actually fold this flop? Could you ever fold here pre-flop after the mini-reraise? This was an 11, so I just cannot ever force myself to fold QQ here... The funny thing is, I was so sure he had aces, I was almost rooting for an overcard to come on the flop. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 6: HERO ( $845 )
Seat 3: sbl21 ( $830 )
Seat 5: gotdeeznuts ( $1580 )
Seat 1: VotacThien1 ( $770 )
Seat 2: baglady_t ( $840 )
Seat 7: crazy_jules ( $690 )
Seat 9: THREEKINGS04 ( $640 )
Seat 8: punch_salmon ( $755 )
Seat 4: budyzer2 ( $290 )
Seat 10: Arch314 ( $760 )

Blinds(10/15)

Dealt to HERO [ Qd Qh ]
punch_salmon folds.
THREEKINGS04 calls [15].
Arch314 folds.
VotacThien1 raises [65].
baglady_t folds.
sbl21 folds.
budyzer2 folds.
gotdeeznuts folds.
cubsfan71 raises [190].
crazy_jules folds.
THREEKINGS04 folds.
VotacThien1 raises [335].
HERO calls [200].

** Dealing Flop ** [ 4c, 5h, Jh ]
HERO checks.
VotacThien1 bets [275].
HERO is all-In [445]
VotacThien1 is all-In [95]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2s ]
** Dealing River ** [ 3s ]
VotacThien1 shows [ Ah, As ] a straight, ace to five.
HERO shows [ Qd, Qh ] a pair of queens.

Anybody get away from this at any point in this hand? Even though I was "sure" he had aces, I just cannot see ever folding here in an 11 or 22. Thoughts?

lastchance
08-08-2005, 03:55 AM
You're cubsfan? Right.

Meh, I can't see this at an $11 either.

45suited
08-08-2005, 03:58 AM
Yeah, that's me... oops! I don't think i could fold at a 22 either.

As I try to improve as a poker player (and I think I'm improving by leaps and bounds), I just don't want to start making reads that over the long run turn me into a "big laydown" wimp, you know? But here, I was so sure he had aces...

Argh...

Jman28
08-08-2005, 04:01 AM
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Even though I was "sure" he had aces, I just cannot see ever folding here in an 11 or 22.

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I guess I don't use the word 'sure' like you do.

As for the hand, without knowing the player well, I wouldn't fold.

psyduck
08-08-2005, 04:02 AM
Push preflop at a $11 or a $22 or a $33. Probably at a 55 as well.

Interesting question is with Jacks I think. Queens are a bit too strong not to push.

45suited
08-08-2005, 04:06 AM
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I guess I don't use the word 'sure' like you do.

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That's why I put the quotes around "sure"... because I know that I can never be certain. But it was a very strong feeling.

I'm not pretending to be able to look into my opponents' souls! /images/graemlins/grin.gif

tigerite
08-08-2005, 05:18 AM
It seems pretty standard to me, this. With JJ I would just call, and still be faced with a difficult decision on the flop, but meh.

bmxreed36
08-08-2005, 05:33 AM
I play at the 22's and have seen people min-reraise with A3 and 44 so don't give anyone too much credit until they deserve it.

tshort
08-08-2005, 06:21 AM
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Even though I was "sure" he had aces

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How'd you rule out kings?