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Maulik
08-07-2005, 10:30 PM
50/100 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL)
Table Table 12817 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 2: SecondSt (755)
Seat 3: Nicekach (715)
Seat 5: bigbudah74 (1100)
Seat 6: uturn98 (1360)
Seat 7: Goody691 (970)
Seat 8: seahawks8 (1050)
Seat 9: BeanPancake (1470)
Seat 10: Hero (580)
BeanPancake posts small blind (25)
Hero posts big blind (50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Qh, 8c ]
SecondSt calls (50)
Nicekach folds.
bigbudah74 folds.
uturn98 calls (50)
Goody691 folds.
seahawks8 folds.
BeanPancake calls (25)
Hero checks.
t200 ** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9d, 7h, Td ]
BeanPancake checks.
Hero checks.
SecondSt bets (100)
uturn98 raises (300) to 300
BeanPancake folds.
Hero raises (530) to 530
Hero is all-In.
SecondSt folds.
uturn98 calls (230)




I wanted to get all my chips all-in on the flop on my draw. There is already a nice and juicy t200 in this hand My line required that I find someone to bet this flop I so I could push AI over the top. Is this line terrible?

lastchance
08-07-2005, 10:38 PM
I like the check on the flop (either that or shove, which isn't terrible, I guess). Don't think I like the push when you suddenly realized you have no FE.

Maulik
08-07-2005, 10:47 PM
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I like the check on the flop (either that or shove, which isn't terrible, I guess). Don't think I like the push when you suddenly realized you have no FE.

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I can certainly see why, but I wanted more chips (read dead chips) in the pot to compensate for being behind to a pair.

microbet
08-07-2005, 11:03 PM
It's cool that if the Jack hits you will beat another 8, but if a 6 hits you might split. The 6d and Jd might be bad outs. And you no longer have any FE. Uturn has made a very strong move so I wouldn't count on your Queen overcard out.

On the other hand, you have less than 5 big blinds and you went into the hand as the shortest stack with 8 players still left. You absolutely can not money in this tourney without getting lucky.

Rock and a hard place.

I don't think I can help. Next.

tigerite
08-08-2005, 04:37 AM
If the players who have limped are weak-tight or even weak-loose pussies preflop, you could just push. I may well do that here.

Maulik
08-08-2005, 09:51 AM
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If the players who have limped are weak-tight or even weak-loose pussies preflop, you could just push. I may well do that here.

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I alluded to this earlier, but I don't really want to simply pick up the t200, which wouldn't be terrible on re-analysis here. But going againsts a pair w/ t500 in the pot as occured by check re-raising AI I feel is better? Any disagreement withthat line of though?

Phil Van Sexton
08-08-2005, 10:03 AM
I think I would just open push here. The pot is 200, so if you check and someone bets the pot....you can only raise 330 more. Now the bettor has to call only 330 in a 930 pot.

When hoping for a bet behind you, you need to be careful what you wish for.

Since your checkraise FE is likely small, I'd just open push and try to blast out the marginal hands that currently dominate you.