Knoler
08-07-2005, 09:13 PM
Hi, my name is Brian, and I'm a chronic flop bettor. /images/graemlins/grin.gif
Seriously, I've recently moved up to 3/6 6 max, and I'm about 5K hands in. One of the things I find myself running into near constantly is how to play missed overcards against loose passive opponents, especially when HU.
I find myself raising preflop, betting the flop, betting the turn, and then checking on the river -- and I never really seem to know where I'm at.
Obviously, against these calling stations value betting is the best play. But, what do you do when you *might* be ahead, because they call with junk, but could easily be behind? When I check / fold, I just have this feeling like I'm giving up on the pot.
Here's an example. Villain is 52/22/1.3, WTSD around 45.
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, MP calls.
Flop: (6.33 SB) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, MP folds.
Turn: (4.16 BB) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.
River: (6.16 BB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero folds.
Final Pot: 7.16 BB
My thinking on the turn is simply that I've got lots of outs , but little showdown value. So, I want to keep the pressure on.
Any suggestions?
-Brian
Seriously, I've recently moved up to 3/6 6 max, and I'm about 5K hands in. One of the things I find myself running into near constantly is how to play missed overcards against loose passive opponents, especially when HU.
I find myself raising preflop, betting the flop, betting the turn, and then checking on the river -- and I never really seem to know where I'm at.
Obviously, against these calling stations value betting is the best play. But, what do you do when you *might* be ahead, because they call with junk, but could easily be behind? When I check / fold, I just have this feeling like I'm giving up on the pot.
Here's an example. Villain is 52/22/1.3, WTSD around 45.
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, MP calls.
Flop: (6.33 SB) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, MP folds.
Turn: (4.16 BB) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.
River: (6.16 BB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero folds.
Final Pot: 7.16 BB
My thinking on the turn is simply that I've got lots of outs , but little showdown value. So, I want to keep the pressure on.
Any suggestions?
-Brian