the TV biz sucks

[hotsauce615]

Warning to anyone getting involved in working in television or other facets of media. Make sure you know people in the business, because the entire business is a mess. I don't know how I'm expected to live off 17$ an hour for like the next ten years (Producer @ News station). After taxes and stuff I can barely afford rent in a crappy area of Brooklyn. Is anyone else making the same amount of money after being out of school??

Majoring in Mass Media = -EV move on all fronts.

Ok done venting the frustrations of life

[jnalpak]

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Warning to anyone getting involved in working in television or other facets of media. Make sure you know people in the business, because the entire business is a mess. I don't know how I'm expected to live off 17$ an hour for like the next ten years (Producer @ News station). After taxes and stuff I can barely afford rent in a crappy area of Brooklyn. Is anyone else making the same amount of money after being out of school??

Majoring in Mass Media = -EV move on all fronts.

Ok done venting the frustrations of life

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if you like this type of work but no the money then i have a fix:

move to la
get a job slaving over a producer
hopefully you dont have lick his taint
make good contacts
make a move to a good arthouse
make a good movie as a producer
call your old ex boss and tell him go f himself

[hotsauce615]

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Warning to anyone getting involved in working in television or other facets of media. Make sure you know people in the business, because the entire business is a mess. I don't know how I'm expected to live off 17$ an hour for like the next ten years (Producer @ News station). After taxes and stuff I can barely afford rent in a crappy area of Brooklyn. Is anyone else making the same amount of money after being out of school??

Majoring in Mass Media = -EV move on all fronts.

Ok done venting the frustrations of life

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if you like this type of work but no the money then i have a fix:

move to la
get a job slaving over a producer
hopefully you dont have lick his taint
make good contacts
make a move to a good arthouse
make a good movie as a producer
call your old ex boss and tell him go f himself

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sounds good, hows the weather over there?

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17$ an hour

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http://theuncool.com/images/news/fastew.jpg

Righteous bucks dude.

[handsome]

I'm actually thinking about getting into the production business in a year. Documentaries and... stuff.

[poker-penguin]

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I'm actually thinking about getting into the production business in a year. Documentaries (porn)

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FYP

[nolanfan34]

If you really want to stay in it, you're just going to have to move somewhere where the cost of living is lower. I can't fathom trying to start in the news business in NY, for exactly the reason you mention.

Now, the other side of the coin is, the small market stations where you can move up quickly don't pay crap. I was a reporter back in the day, and my first contract was for $15,500 - per year. /images/graemlins/blush.gif

Of course I was just out of college, and my rent was like $250/month, so I thought I was rich.

If you like news producing, my advice is to look for a mid-level market. Good producers are hard to find. Depending on where you want to live, I'd try to target a mid-level place where you'll make enough to be comfortable, and the cost of living will be less.

On the West Coast, Spokane, Boise, Fresno, even Las Vegas, these are markets that a recent college grad or someone with limited experience can get into.

[ChipWrecked]

David Green has a bit about young things moving to Hollywood.

At first, they're full of hope: I just know if I work hard and believe in myself, I can make it here!

Six months later: Oh, OK, just don't get any in my eye.

[hotsauce615]

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If you really want to stay in it, you're just going to have to move somewhere where the cost of living is lower. I can't fathom trying to start in the news business in NY, for exactly the reason you mention.

Now, the other side of the coin is, the small market stations where you can move up quickly don't pay crap. I was a reporter back in the day, and my first contract was for $15,500 - per year. /images/graemlins/blush.gif

Of course I was just out of college, and my rent was like $250/month, so I thought I was rich.

If you like news producing, my advice is to look for a mid-level market. Good producers are hard to find. Depending on where you want to live, I'd try to target a mid-level place where you'll make enough to be comfortable, and the cost of living will be less.

On the West Coast, Spokane, Boise, Fresno, even Las Vegas, these are markets that a recent college grad or someone with limited experience can get into.

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Well heck, las vegas sounds great! But I think if I lived there I won't like it anymore. Get what I'm saying? I was thinking of moving to Seattle. I've been there a few times and I heard the markets are good out there.

[Drew16]

I have a BS in Radio/TV and have been out of school for 18months and cant even get a job. I applied for a part-time teleprompter job that paid $6/hr and didnt hear anything. Now im trying to focus on working in media depts for larger companies. F a TV station.

[hoopsie44]

Dude, I would never lie to you. I'm going to tell you straight up. Quit being a pussy. I started in media sales for one of the big 3 networks. You're going to be [censored] on. And you're going to have to kiss ass. You're going to have to debase yourself. But if you can put up with all this, and you have talent, you may make it. Maybe.Quit whining. If you can't afford living in the greatest city in the world get out.If you can't deal with the competititve nature of the industry you've chosen , move. TV media wants closers, not pussies. This board caters to pussies. Make your choice.

[Edge34]

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I have a BS in Radio/TV and have been out of school for 18months and cant even get a job. I applied for a part-time teleprompter job that paid $6/hr and didnt hear anything. Now im trying to focus on working in media depts for larger companies. F a TV station.

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Well [censored].

Oh well, looks like I'll be joining a band and playing the game of p*ker if I'm going to make any money...

Scheduled graduation: 1.5-2 years.

[nolanfan34]

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I have a BS in Radio/TV and have been out of school for 18months and cant even get a job. I applied for a part-time teleprompter job that paid $6/hr and didnt hear anything. Now im trying to focus on working in media depts for larger companies. F a TV station.

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Well [censored].

Oh well, looks like I'll be joining a band and playing the game of p*ker if I'm going to make any money...

Scheduled graduation: 1.5-2 years.

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No, the job market isn't as bad as he says. It may be if you confine yourself to one specific town or market.

The fact of the matter is, for anyone majoring in journalism, especially in TV, you have to be prepared for the fact that you have to be flexible on where you live. If you have your heart set on a certain station or market, well, don't count on it. You may have to live for 12 to 18 months in a market in the 120-200 range if you want to be an on air reporter.

If you're producing, or in production, the jobs are easier to get, but you still have to be willing to move.

To the OP, maybe I missed it in your thread. But how much experience do you have? Getting a producer job in Seattle is doable, depending on how long you've been working in NY.

[hotsauce615]

4 years of college. 2 years working in the bronx/brooklyn. Big Market

[nolanfan34]

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4 years of college. 2 years working in the bronx/brooklyn. Big Market

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Yeah, that's big market. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[hotsauce615]

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Dude, I would never lie to you. I'm going to tell you straight up. Quit being a pussy. I started in media sales for one of the big 3 networks. You're going to be [censored] on. And you're going to have to kiss ass. You're going to have to debase yourself. But if you can put up with all this, and you have talent, you may make it. Maybe.Quit whining. If you can't afford living in the greatest city in the world get out.If you can't deal with the competititve nature of the industry you've chosen , move. TV media wants closers, not pussies. This board caters to pussies. Make your choice.

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Its nothing to do with competition. I ate my competition alive to even get where I was. The initial complaint is about the lack of money being made in this industry.

[hoopsie44]

Good luck. I'm sure the money will come eventually.

[Dominic]

why does everyone expect to make big bucks straight out of college now??

Ever heard of working your way up? Experience counts for a lot. Not that I had to do that, of course. I sold a script when I was 24 and never looked back - always made good money in NY and L.A.... /images/graemlins/grin.gif

but for the rest of you new grads....get to work!

[ChipWrecked]

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why does everyone expect to make big bucks straight out of college now??



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Reagan was president when I got out of college, and everybody wanted to make big bucks right after graduation then.