stressed out to the max

[stupidsucker]

I must be offically on tilt.
I dont feel like I am playign bad, but I must be.

I am getting crushed at the 22s..

I have been playign this game as my only source of income for over a year now and I dont see how I can possibly be a loser.

Top this bad run

413 games
-$106
-1.17% roi

has anyone seen me at the tables... am I making any major mistakes..

I am a prideful man, and this isnt an all out complain post, but rather a plee for help that ANYONE has suffered a run like this at the low limits...

I can not understand.

Is it possible to be this unlucky.... and if so... what is the statistical element involved.

I know I am making mistakes, but anyone that can say they never make a mistake is a liar.

If there were a way to prove it I would wager that I have taken the worst of it as a favorite a ridicuklous amount.

what scares me... is

that is what the fish say right?

[octaveshift]

[ QUOTE ]
I am playing bad.

[/ QUOTE ]

FYP

That said, it took me about a week and my entire bankroll to finally come to terms with the fact that I was playing on tilt due to some real world issues I am facing.

Even the smallest shift in your game play can result in serious suckage.

Take a few days off.

[Freudian]

I had a breakeven streak of 500 games at the $22s. Outside that I haven't even had a breakeven streak of 100 games but have been solidly winning all the time with minor bumps where I have bounced back very quickly.

If your SnG history except this streak tells you that you are a winning player, most likely you are. Doesn't feel like it when you are in the eye of the storm though.

[axeshigh]

I'd check what your finish distribution looks like for starters and review the HHs of all the times you bust in 8-10 or 4th. If you don't spot anything wrong maybe post some hands you aren't sure about, etc.

I realize this is none of my business, but I wouldn't be comfortable playing as my only source of income at the 22s... I would need 15% ROI over 2000 SnGs at the 55s or at the very least the 33s 8-tabling.

Hope this helps at all.

[stupidsucker]

[ QUOTE ]
Take a few days off.


[/ QUOTE ]

This run has been goign on since June... I have had time off after time off after time off...

I dont feel I am playing "bad" that is the problem I guess.

If I felt I was playing bad then this would eb an easy fix.

I feel I am playing 20%+ roi poker at the 22s and I am getting crushed.

I was astounded to see that my run has gone on this long.

I am trying to remain sane, but I have never heard of a proven winning player having this kind of run at this low of level...

either
A) I am playing bad and I dont know it
B) an even run over 413 games is statistacly not improbable
C) I am one of the unluckiest poker players ever. (This is how I feel)

I get as upset as the next guy when someone goes on complaining about their bad luck, but ejsus thuis wont end.

I feel if you took my entire lifetime sample size I would be running about 20% below the chip EV I should be or greater.

I know how often AK should be Ax, but It is becoming a huge mental problem for me. I cant win.

[flyingmoose]

First thing's first: Calm down!

You're probably on a bad run of cards, and it probably has affected your game. But you're still making money with rakeback; it's not like your roll is at risk.

Take a day or two off; find a video game you like, get high, go to a strip club.

After you feel analytical again, post some hand histories. I'll personally look some over for you when I finish finals in a week, if you would like.

You've been paying the bils with poker for a year, so you know you're a winning player. Remember that. It's almost impossible to break out of a downswing when you don't feel like a winner.

[stupidsucker]

[ QUOTE ]
I had a breakeven streak of 500 games at the $22s.

[/ QUOTE ]

well this is comforting.. I have every intention of of running my bankroll into the ground. I feel I am playign fine poker.

Perfect poker? no way.

thanks freudian.

[stupidsucker]

[ QUOTE ]
I'd check what your finish distribution looks like for starters

[/ QUOTE ]
1-40
2-43
3-60
4-65
5-59
6-52
7-35
8-26
9-26
10-7

I know what you are thinking by looking at my dist..

you would be very wrong if you thought I didnt play for first.

my ITM is 34.62% ... The 3rds are KILLING ME

[ QUOTE ]
I wouldn't be comfortable playing as my only source of income at the 22s

[/ QUOTE ]

why?

a 20% roi for 1k games a month at the 22s is a very nice income. It is supposed to be easy too.

I am a no frill guy. I dont need a large income to be happy. (although I want to change this so I can buy a house before i turn 30)

[tigerite]

I'm not sure if I've seen you at the $22s or not, is it just 'stupidsucker' or some other screen name?

[bones]

[ QUOTE ]
It is supposed to be easy too.

[/ QUOTE ]

Poker isn't easy. My major beef with this forum is all of the ridiculous hyperbole about how easy poker is. At least once a day someone says something ridiculous like "I can teach a 9 year old with lupus how to beat the 55s" or "Anyone should be able to beat the 22s for 25% roi."

By reading, studying, observing, and thinking about poker, you set yourself up to have a series of small edges over your opponents, edges that are hopefully greater than the rake. Yet your edges are still small. Casinos have been known to post losing quarters, and they have many more trials than we have to exploit their edges.

Your play probably has deteriorated somewhat, but in all likelyhood, you're still a winning player. I realize that "hang in there" is neither comforting nor particularly helpful advice, but aside from reviewing hands and trying to get the positive mindset, it's the only advice out there.

Best of luck.

[axeshigh]

[ QUOTE ]

[ QUOTE ]
I wouldn't be comfortable playing as my only source of income at the 22s

[/ QUOTE ]
why?


[/ QUOTE ]

Many reasons. I'd need to be certain I'm good enough and crushing the game significantly not to doubt my capacity to win in the event of a downswing. Also, I know I could easily make more money in another job than I could grinding the 22s. There's also no guarantee that the games will still be there in a few years (new legislation, poker boom stops, etc) so if I dropped everything for poker it would need to be worth it. This is all personal preference though, I'm only saying 'cause you asked.

Also, I don't think the situation is as bad as you make it. It's not a downswing, it's a break-even stint. You mentioned you usually played 1k Sngs a month, and this 413-game streak has been going on since June, so you've only played 413 in the last 2 months? Maybe you should try getting back on your game seriously for a week, playing say 30-50 SnGs a day and reevaluate after having played another 300-500 games in a shorter period of time.

[The once and future king]

SS.

In all likelyhood you are now tilting (we all would be no shame in it). Tilt is the variance exagteratoooooor.

You realy need to get the frustration out of your system. I let my first real mega fu....cking bad streak nearly wipe me out and even though I saved the situation before ruin I still look back on my first encounter with the frozen wave with regret as I basicaly maximised instead of minimised the damage it did.

Dont make my mistake. Walk away for a bit then come back and play calm and cool and collected.

[Vasquez]

stupidsucker,
Hang in there bud. if you are doing the right things the money will come baby the money will come.

-vas

[Paul2432]

If your true ROI is 20% then a run like this over a 413 games is about 0.5%. If you have been a pro over a year I would imagine you've played several thousand tournaments. The more you play the higher the probability gets of a bad run like this. Granted, it is probably tens of thousands of tournaments between runs this bad, but given all the players that post here, its bound to happen to someone.

Of course, the above does not mean pretend nothing happened and continue playing your regular game. Poker is a game that requires continuous study and thought. Take this bad run as an opportunity to study your game and look for leaks. If you can find someone to review half a dozen complete tournaments.

Paul

[Irieguy]

You're fine, dude. I've watched you play. I've done 477 SNGs as a loser, which is essentially 500. Never had a losing month.

I dropped 33 buy-ins yesterday... meh.

Here's something that can help:

Once you've made the decision in a hand, do something else. Don't sit there like a gambler rooting for no suck-out. You're a slot machine, not a slot player. Once the coin is in, your job is done. Look at another screen, or take a hit from your twister... whatever. If you can stop sweating the river it seems to help. At least it helps me a bit.

Irieguy

[Irieguy]

[ QUOTE ]


Poker isn't easy. My major beef with this forum is all of the ridiculous hyperbole about how easy poker is. At least once a day someone says something ridiculous like "I can teach a 9 year old with lupus how to beat the 55s" or "Anyone should be able to beat the 22s for 25% roi."

By reading, studying, observing, and thinking about poker, you set yourself up to have a series of small edges over your opponents, edges that are hopefully greater than the rake. Yet your edges are still small. Casinos have been known to post losing quarters, and they have many more trials than we have to exploit their edges.

Your play probably has deteriorated somewhat, but in all likelyhood, you're still a winning player. I realize that "hang in there" is neither comforting nor particularly helpful advice, but aside from reviewing hands and trying to get the positive mindset, it's the only advice out there.

Best of luck.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yep.

Irieguy

[Newt_Buggs]

It looks like you already know the answer. If you really feel that you're not on tilt and its only been bad luck then just keep on grinding.

Otherwise, either spend a lot of time reviewing HH and/or exchanging with someone to get someone else to take a look at your play. That way you can get another break and possibly plug up some leaks.

[bluefeet]

reminds me of this one (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=singletable&Number=2411038 &Forum=f22&Words=pillow&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main =2407630&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=&daterange =1&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyp rev=#Post2411038)...

watching, waiting, hoping, IS unnecessary torture. anymore, i shrink the screen and go about business at another table. i'll soon enough get a 'you finished x' pop-up, or a prompt to act for the next hand. i have NO interest in finding out how he/i sucked out. i can't imagine having a the negative image burned in your brain can help.

[stupidsucker]

I just needed my vent..

i had it. I feel a little better.

I am extra irritable because I have been also purging caffeine out of my system. The withdrawal is really bad. After some research on it I have found that most say cold turkey is not the way to do it ebcause it causes too much stress.

I drove to the store to calm down and bought some chocolate icecream. I can indulge in it and get a little caffeine fix.

I think what I was looking for was someone to tell me that I am not a winning player so I couold have ripped them a new A-hole in retaliation. That would have been fun for me.

Somone zzzzzzzzzzed me today for hitting my time bank button when I wanted to think about a push. I went off on him and timed out every hand after that. Teling him that an apology was needed in order for it to stop.

I am on tilt. I dont play terrible like some do twhen they tilt, but honestly I worry about my health and the health of those around me that may cross me. If someone pushed me the wrong way in a state like this, my 140lbs ass would be all over them. I fear I may hurt someone. I havent had caffeine in days and have been cutting out my other bad habit as well(420).

I did these things for health reasons, but now... I think it is in my best interest to indulge.

[SuitedSixes]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I'd check what your finish distribution looks like for starters

[/ QUOTE ]
1-40
2-43
3-60
4-65
5-59
6-52
7-35
8-26
9-26
10-7



[/ QUOTE ]

That looks incredibly out of whack to me. Anyone else? I didn't have that many 9ths in 1000 22s.

[ilya]

I hear you man. I'm about to have my first losing week ever. Down 14 buy-ins over my last 100 $20s, and set to have another losing 100! I don't know what the hell is going on.

[Irieguy]

[ QUOTE ]
I just needed my vent..

i had it. I feel a little better.

I am extra irritable because I have been also purging caffeine out of my system. The withdrawal is really bad. After some research on it I have found that most say cold turkey is not the way to do it ebcause it causes too much stress.

I drove to the store to calm down and bought some chocolate icecream. I can indulge in it and get a little caffeine fix.

I think what I was looking for was someone to tell me that I am not a winning player so I couold have ripped them a new A-hole in retaliation. That would have been fun for me.

Somone zzzzzzzzzzed me today for hitting my time bank button when I wanted to think about a push. I went off on him and timed out every hand after that. Teling him that an apology was needed in order for it to stop.

I am on tilt. I dont play terrible like some do twhen they tilt, but honestly I worry about my health and the health of those around me that may cross me. If someone pushed me the wrong way in a state like this, my 140lbs ass would be all over them. I fear I may hurt someone. I havent had caffeine in days and have been cutting out my other bad habit as well(420).

I did these things for health reasons, but now... I think it is in my best interest to indulge.

[/ QUOTE ]

Dude, you need a spliff in a bad way.

Sheeesh.

Irieguy

[axeshigh]

[ QUOTE ]

Anyone else? I didn't have that many 9ths in 1000 22s.

[/ QUOTE ]

I never had close to that many 9ths either /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[axeshigh]

[ QUOTE ]
I hear you man. I'm about to have my first losing week ever. Down 14 buy-ins over my last 100 $20s, and set to have another losing 100! I don't know what the hell is going on.

[/ QUOTE ]

Prophecy still as you at 45%, so I figure you must have been running insane prior to that... always wondered why you were playing the 22s with stats like that.

[tigerite]

[ QUOTE ]
I hear you man. I'm about to have my first losing week ever. Down 14 buy-ins over my last 100 $20s, and set to have another losing 100! I don't know what the hell is going on.

[/ QUOTE ]

In the game we played, you seemed to leave it a little too late to make a move, but otherwise you played pretty fine. Just seemed to be card dead. Once I'd doubled up I could make a fair few steals at the 50/100 level, and never looked back (although I only got 3rd when I pushed to the other big stack who limped UTG with K9, and he thought for ages before calling with KQo, ugh..thought he would lay down).

[Newt_Buggs]

damn, this is a good reminder for me of how much harder this game is when you're playing for rent money.

[Irieguy]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I'd check what your finish distribution looks like for starters

[/ QUOTE ]
1-40
2-43
3-60
4-65
5-59
6-52
7-35
8-26
9-26
10-7



[/ QUOTE ]

That looks incredibly out of whack to me. Anyone else? I didn't have that many 9ths in 1000 22s.

[/ QUOTE ]

I would have probably said the same thing a few months ago. But I had a run of 500 SNGs in June with 29 9ths, even though I had been at 3.5% for my prior 2000.

Also, in my first 150 $55's for the bet with Zen, I have 16 9ths so far in spite of a 38% ITM. Get aces cracked 7 consecutive times and your finish distribution will be skewed for a while.

It's too easy to let these numbers mess with your head. It's still just poker. Get your money in as the favorite, and force your opponents to act differently than they would if the cards were exposed. I believe you can tell if this is happening... at least it's easy to tell when you watch somebody's HHs.

Irieguy

[Slim Pickens]

I've gone 400 as a loser at the 22's, which is included in my total of just over 1000 for a 15% ROI this year. It sucks ass, and I can't imagine how much worse it sucks when it's your income, not your spending money, at stake.

As for statistical metrics, you have exactly the kind of finish distribution I'd expect to see from someone sucks at coin flips. Maybe others more talented than I can avoid ever having to take them, but if I can get all 900 of my chips in as a 60/40 favorite 5-handed I'll take it any day. Since you have to take so many of these, an extended bad run in the 60/40's (binomial distribution... and so on) will kill your ROI like you wouldn't believe. I could lose every time I went in as an 85/15 favorite and not have it hurt too badly because it almost never comes up. It's not the suckouts. It's that losing with A9 being called by KT twenty times out of thirty BS that'll get you.

...and if poker doesn't work, you can alway grow your hair out and make a living as a Corey Feldman impersonator.

SlimP

[stupidsucker]

I dont even have to look at my PT database.
my 9th place and 8th place losses were due to bad bad beats.

The way things have been going it looks like runner runner draws are a legit strategy vs me.

[nate_king1]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
It is supposed to be easy too.

[/ QUOTE ]

Poker isn't easy. My major beef with this forum is all of the ridiculous hyperbole about how easy poker is. At least once a day someone says something ridiculous like "I can teach a 9 year old with lupus how to beat the 55s" or "Anyone should be able to beat the 22s for 25% roi."

By reading, studying, observing, and thinking about poker, you set yourself up to have a series of small edges over your opponents, edges that are hopefully greater than the rake. Yet your edges are still small. Casinos have been known to post losing quarters, and they have many more trials than we have to exploit their edges.

Your play probably has deteriorated somewhat, but in all likelyhood, you're still a winning player. I realize that "hang in there" is neither comforting nor particularly helpful advice, but aside from reviewing hands and trying to get the positive mindset, it's the only advice out there.

Best of luck.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree with you completely. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[stupidsucker]

[ QUOTE ]
...and if poker doesn't work, you can alway grow your hair out and make a living as a Corey Feldman impersonator.

[/ QUOTE ]

ok I am growing back my hair now...

[stupidsucker]

[ QUOTE ]
I dont even have to look at my PT database.
my 9th place and 8th place losses were due to bad bad beats.

The way things have been going it looks like runner runner draws are a legit strategy vs me.

[/ QUOTE ]

I picked one at random

it went like this...

***** Hand History for Game 2473097103 *****
15/30 TOURNEY TEXAS HOLD'EM GAME TABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 14519543) - WED AUG 03 20:25:58 EDT 2005
Table Table 14518 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: larold59 (1490)
Seat 3: shamrock7770 (510)
Seat 4: dlhughley (745)
Seat 5: sharkycurt (1135)
Seat 6: rytron24 (845)
Seat 7: AsianAvenue (875)
Seat 8: Seat11 (810)
Seat 9: dabudabuda (845)
Seat 10: Portagoose (745)
Seat11 posts small blind (10)
dabudabuda posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Seat11 [ Ac, Kc ]
Portagoose folds.
larold59 folds.
shamrock7770 calls (15)
dlhughley folds.
sharkycurt folds.
rytron24 folds.
AsianAvenue calls (15)
Seat11 raises (60) to 70
dabudabuda folds.
shamrock7770 calls (55)
AsianAvenue calls (55)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8c, Ah, 7s ]
Seat11 bets (740)
Seat11 is all-In.
shamrock7770 calls (440)
shamrock7770 is all-In.
AsianAvenue folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 4h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Th ]
Creating Main Pot with $1105 with shamrock7770
Creating Side Pot 1 with $300 with Seat11
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1105 | Side Pot 1: 300
Board: [ 8c Ah 7s 4h Th ]
larold59 balance 1490, didn't bet (folded)
shamrock7770 balance 1105, bet 510, collected 1105, net +595 [ 5s 6d ] [ a straight, four to eight -- 8c,7s,6d,5s,4h ]
dlhughley balance 745, didn't bet (folded)
sharkycurt balance 1135, didn't bet (folded)
rytron24 balance 845, didn't bet (folded)
AsianAvenue balance 805, lost 70 (folded)
Seat11 balance 300, bet 810, collected 300, lost -510 [ Ac Kc ] [ a pair of aces -- Ac,Ah,Kc,Th,8c ]
dabudabuda balance 830, lost 15 (folded)
Portagoose balance 745, didn't bet (folded)

[newfant]

I've been playing at the $22s for nigh on two years now. I was rolling along pretty smoothly until about May of this year and then I hit a bump. Prior to May I had been clearing about $1K per month, and then May came and I think I was slightly negative for the month.

Personally, I think the $22s are harder than they used to be. More people are pushing on the bubble now which causes other people to open up their calling ranges. I believe the extra level recently added does not help either.

Anyhoo, you're not alone in your extended downstreak at the lowly $22s.

Edited to add: I specifically remember losing 2 times in one day during my downswing when I was allin with AA vs Ax preflop. Not to mention losing every bloody race. Damn that downswing sucked.

[johnnybeef]

Stupid,

Don't ever let me see you be this big of a pussy again. You are a diesel player. You have the best results of anyone that I know of at your level. Suck it up and take your downswing like a man (and if you want to act like me, wine about it a lot.)

[axeshigh]

Is pushing 3-4x pot with AK your default play when you hit?

[J-Lo]

[ QUOTE ]

2-43
3-60
4-65
5-59
6-52
7-35
8-26
9-26
10-7



[/ QUOTE ]

After looking at your finish distribution, it looks like you are just lucky not to have lost your shirt in the last year. You are a losing player-- get over it... u suck. <font color="white"> I read the whole thread and noticed this is what he was lookin for so he could rip on someone-- let's see if he reads the white. </font>
The $22's should be the easiest level to beat.. it's liek taking candy from a baby-- get real man. Find a real job-- someothing you're actually good at.

[The Don]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

2-43
3-60
4-65
5-59
6-52
7-35
8-26
9-26
10-7



[/ QUOTE ]

After looking at your finish distribution, it looks like you are just lucky not to have lost your shirt in the last year. You are a losing player-- get over it... u suck. <font color="white"> I read the whole thread and noticed this is what he was lookin for so he could rip on someone-- let's see if he reads the white. </font>
The $22's should be the easiest level to beat.. it's liek taking candy from a baby-- get real man. Find a real job-- someothing you're actually good at.

[/ QUOTE ]

I know this is a joke but part is true... the $22s are the easiest level to beat IMO. The players are predicatable ( the good part of the $33s) yet have no idea what they are doing on the bubble (the good part of the $11s). I think you are definitely running bad.... but there are probably some adjustments you should have made 2 months ago with the new level 5 that you haven't.

[microbet]

[ QUOTE ]
(and if you want to act like me, wine about it a lot.)

[/ QUOTE ]

That's probably a good idea. Especially since he is quitting pot.

[Slim Pickens]

[ QUOTE ]
3-60
4-65
5-59
6-52

[/ QUOTE ]
^---- lots of 3rd through 6th place finishes compared to 1st and 2nd.

I don't think bad beats are the problem. A decent winning player will take way more bad beats than he gives, but it's still smaller than the number of close races you can lose over a long stretch. I think this is my next pencil-and-paper excercise. Anyway, if you're pushing top pair and getting called by OESD's, keep it up and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

SlimP

[stupidsucker]

slim I agree

If I didnt watch the hands I have seen myself lose with then wouldnt believe it either.

I took a break
took a walk
ate ice cream
came back and lost an other 10 buys....

it was awesome watching my KK push into AA another 2x today

just awesome.

[SuitedSixes]

How about this? You are a professional poker player, not a professional SNG expert. Switch it up for a little bit. Play some ring games. Being a pro we don't have the luxury of taking time off every time it goes bad, just find a different way to make money for awhile.

Edit: Or look at this (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Number=3060091&amp;page=&amp;view=&amp;sb=5&amp; o=&amp;fpart=all&amp;vc=1) for a little bit like one of those Magic Eye pictures they used to have at the mall. I find it very relaxing.

[Dylan Wade]

Hey I was just playing a 20 with ya. your in game chat was very stressed..

it's likely your mood is eggagerating the variance

i recommend getting a tattoo..

[stupidsucker]

[ QUOTE ]
Hey I was just playing a 20 with ya. your in game chat was very stressed..

it's likely your mood is eggagerating the variance

i recommend getting a tattoo..

[/ QUOTE ]

I have a tatoo of mighty mouse on my right calf... It was a spur of the moment thing at midnight in my friends living room.

If I recall you beat my KJ with your Kx ITM with a 4flush.
Then you had QQ when I had KQs
Par for the course.

I took third as predicted.

[zipo]

For me at least, I understand what a downswing does to the mind, even as I pride myself on being 'rational' - it's harder than it appears to avoid the vicious downward spiral.

Two things that have helped me - I visualize the times that I suck out even during the downswings - that is, I try to vividly recall the suckouts I've benefited from during recent hands.

The other thing is to play a few step 1 minis like an absolute maniac, blowing off steam by embodying the manic fish archetype.

Just a couple of things that have seemed to help me - ymmv.

[lacky]

i just got back from my 20th high school reunion, so im drunk and aint gonna read it all, but i can tell ya, you need time off, 3 to 4 days off, no poker. thats what i do when I get as frustrated as you clearly are. It works!

Steve

[raptor517]

[ QUOTE ]
i just got back from my 20th high school reunion, so im drunk and aint gonna read it all, but i can tell ya, you need time off, 3 to 4 days off, no poker. thats what i do when I get as frustrated as you clearly are. It works!

Steve

[/ QUOTE ]

steves right.. he makes sure to tell me every day thrice. holla

[The Yugoslavian]

Wow....that is a brilliant user name. You also live in a brilliant place.

/images/graemlins/wink.gif

As for what SS needs to do...it's quite clear to me. He needs a Zachary's excursion, IMMEDIATELY!

Yugoslav
Who is in Huntington *right now*....

[The Yugoslavian]

[ QUOTE ]
i just got back from my 20th high school reunion

[/ QUOTE ]

There *must* be a trip report Steve!

Did the jock bully from your high school end up getting really fat and you punched him in the nads?

Did you bang that uber-hot cheerleader who you've had a crush on for 20 years?

WE NEED ANSWERS DAMNIT!

Yugoslav

[stupidsucker]

everyone always says take a break take a break...

Takign a break will not make a bad run stop... all it does is waste time, and if I come back 3 days later and continue the bad run it makes me even mroe angry.. Now I would be just as far behind $wise and even more behind time wise.

I took a few hours off. hunted down some herbal remedy procured for tomorrow afternoon. Fired up some more games and did OK...

Breaks are good if you are playing poorly. but I can not justify a break right now... as pointed out by the amount of poker I have played since june (under 500 games).... Dont you think I have taken enough breaks?

Only thing that will untilt me is $$$ only way to make $$$ is to play poker and win a coinflip.

this last run of 8 helped
I placed 6/8...(2 of each)
the one second place I had shoudl have been a first. I lost 4 dominatiions while ITM... and 2 domintaions before ITM.. all of this in the same game. 3 hands to the same person.


had I taken the reccomend break I would have had to go to bed down $300 for the day
now only down $76

[The Yugoslavian]

I didn't say take a break...I said go eat some goddamned Zachary's BATCH!

And pay attention to this next piece of advice:

http://69.93.50.122/wonderfulgirls/photos/AEB636E8FDF84A6B911062F27A6845DE.jpg

Yugoslav

[Irieguy]

[ QUOTE ]
Hey I was just playing a 20 with ya. your in game chat was very stressed..

it's likely your mood is eggagerating the variance

i recommend getting a tattoo..

[/ QUOTE ]

Ooh, if this is true... there's one thing you can do to help right away.

stop chatting

Chatting is for hacks and little sissies. Do the pit bosses chat in the casino? No. They aren't rude, but they just do their job.

If this is your job, you shouldn't be recreating and chatting it up... especially if you 8-table (which you do.) Chatting is a bigger leak than people realize. I'm sure some (read: Daliman) will disagree... but it can't possibly help and it can certainly hurt. It blows my mind that rational people don't see this.

Irieguy

[jeffraider]

Hey bud post some HHs in the study group! I'll go over them as fast as you can post them, if even just for your peace of mind that you're not insane.

[lastchance]

If you can't take a breakeven session at 500, perhaps you shouldn't be playing poker for a living. Variance happens, and while it hurts, over a long period of time, you're going to get runs like this, no matter how well you play.

[stupidsucker]

I dont chat much. This particular game was down to the last one in my set of 8. Im tilty, it helps me feel a little better when I chat a bit.

More or less I agree with you though... I said to myself the just last night that I should just go off on some people with profanity until I get my chat suspended and it will help my game.

I feel better already. I have stuff going on irl too, and that never helps poker for me. I am tempermental and I am aware that my mood will often reflect my game, no matter how much I am blinded by it.

letting this thread die now.

My sincere apologies for the racket.

Thanks to everyone for the shoulder to cry on.

[microbet]

Ok, nice post again, and I don't want to discourage you, but Curtains' sister might start to think you are creepy.

[Irieguy]

Yugo, my friend.

If you could kindly do me one small favor:

Never make a post without a picture ever again. Right now, I can click on your name and select "show all user's posts" and have myself a little hottie buffet. It would truly bum me out to have to sort through any off-topic posts.

Thank you.

Irieguy

[Colonel Kataffy]

[ QUOTE ]
"I can teach a 9 year old with lupus how to beat the 55s"

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I tought my 9 year old cousin (w/lupus) how to beat the 55s, but even he runs bad every now and then.