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PokerBob
08-06-2005, 04:25 PM
no read

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Preflop: Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, Hero......????

Peter
08-06-2005, 04:29 PM
I'd call down.

Guido
08-07-2005, 05:23 PM
Why?

Thanks,

Guido

Peter
08-08-2005, 01:10 PM
Because I have difficulty folding these hands.

baronzeus
08-08-2005, 01:14 PM
I'm not a big fan of the 3bet here, since there's a reasonable chance you're behind here. I'd just call down and if he bluff raised a draw or BS I'd change "no reads" to "bluff raises turn in steal situation".

Is calling down after getting popped on the turn horrible here? Am I missing bets?

MrTeddyKGB
08-08-2005, 01:16 PM
I would not 3 bet the turn without a read... I would call down from there, bet if checked to.

MisterKing
08-08-2005, 01:30 PM
Me no likey the turn 3-bet. I am unable to articulate exactly why I feel this way, other than to say that getting capped sucks, we want to see a showdown, we want to get a read so next hand we play we won't be in the dreaded "no reads" situation we're in right now (e.g. we gotta see what the hell he has!). Yes, he may have picked up a frush draw to go with a straight draw (e.g. 7h9h or whatever), but this just doesn't feel right.

I presume you called down and found him holding A6?

baronzeus
08-08-2005, 01:31 PM
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I would not 3 bet the turn without a read... I would call down from there, bet if checked to.

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Well we are out of position here so we run the danger of having it checked through.

Guido
08-08-2005, 04:32 PM
Good reason /images/graemlins/confused.gif

Redd
08-08-2005, 04:43 PM
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Why?

Thanks,

Guido

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Any merit in:
1) 10BB pot and,
2) two flushdraws that the unknown Villain could be getting stupid with?

I think I'm less inclined to 3-bet it as well tho; I would probably go with Zeus' line.

sammy_g
08-08-2005, 05:42 PM
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Well we are out of position here so we run the danger of having it checked through.

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Not if we call the turn raise and bet the river.

ggbman
08-08-2005, 06:00 PM
I would call the turn raise, and if you really think you're still good, bet/call the river, but the 3 bet doesnt seem good to me, he's capping your ass with a 6 every time.

yanicehand
08-08-2005, 06:32 PM
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Because I have difficulty folding these hands.

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this is the best and most honest response i've heard in a long time. lol.

Derek in NYC
08-08-2005, 06:35 PM
I call down when raised on the turn.

Willluck
08-08-2005, 06:54 PM
some people go nuts in HU situations, so a call down can't be too bad. It seems however, in my experience, that this is a boat or trips more than 85% of the time. So, although I often call down in this situation myself, it seems like a bad habit. Any thoughts?

Poldi
08-08-2005, 06:55 PM
me2

wheelz
08-08-2005, 06:58 PM
No, do not even entertain the notion of folding this. But you don't need to 3-bet