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Silverback

08-06-2005, 10:22 AM

Comments on any welcome.

Hand 1

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Preflop: Hero is Button with T/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (4.66 BB) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero calls, BB folds.

River: (6.66 BB) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 6.66 BB

Hand 2
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Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls, 1 fold, Button calls, SB raises, Hero calls, UTG calls, Button calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 players)
SB bets, Hero folds, UTG folds, Button calls.

Turn: (5 BB) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
SB bets, Button raises, SB folds.

Final Pot: 8 BB

Hand 3
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Preflop: Hero is Button with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero folds, BB folds.

Final Pot: 3.66 BB

Hand 4
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Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, SB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets, SB calls, Hero folds.

River: (5 BB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB checks, UTG bets, SB calls.

Final Pot: 7 BB

hand 5
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Preflop: Hero is MP with T/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
1 fold, Hero raises, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.33 SB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (3.16 BB) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
BB bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 4.16 BB

Hand 6
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Preflop: Hero is MP with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, UTG folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.33 SB) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.16 BB) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 6.16 BB

GetThere1Time

08-06-2005, 10:39 AM

Hands 1, 2, and 3 I'm either raising the flop, betting the turn, and free showdowning a non A or T, or calling the flop and raising the turn for a free showdown. This is usually how I deal with the flop lead in after I raise, barring any read. They are usually crap, especially on a paired board.

Hand 4 I'd like to see a ravine with the T /images/graemlins/spade.gif and an overcard. If you don't think you're going to get raised I bet this again since I think you have to call. Check/fold the river UI. Bet/fold any A or /images/graemlins/spade.gif

Hand 5 I'm raising and free showdowning any non A or T river. He usually doesn't have it. Easy fold to a 3-bet. If he has a 4 you have 6 outs. If he has a 2 you have 8. Mix all that in with the possibility your hand is best and I think a turn raise is goot.

Barring any reads I have a hard time not calling down in hand 6.

Redeye

08-06-2005, 02:58 PM

I'll respond since these are situation I really struggle with sometimes. As such, my answers should be taken with a grain of salt.

1. I raise this. I think you have the best hand and often UTG is taking a shot at a paired board after BB has shown no interest.

2. I probably call a flop bet at 9:1, although I think a fold isn't bad as it probably gets raised behind a fair amount so you could often be getting 4.5:1. So your true odds are probably somewhere inbetween. Also, SB betting into a field of 4 can be a strong move and so some of the time your drawing almost dead.

3. I would usually raise this. I have a hard time believing someone would bet out with trip Qs, probably a flush draw, since I have no pair I want to push out the BB so he can't pair on the turn and isolate myself against a flush draw or small pp.

4. I probably call getting 5:1 closing the action. If you have the highest spade, you may have as many as 11 outs. Some % of time your spade isn't best though, so discounting flush outs some plus adding that you may have a couple ace outs probably makes a call ok here.

5. I'd call down, but I don't know why

6. I don't know. I feel like I always lose this to a higher pair if I call down. Only getting half the pot at best usually. I don't think I mind a fold.