Red Sox fans are now just as bad as Yankee fans.

[bort411]

I hate them both evenly at this point. But the Red Sox may pull ahead before the end of the year.

I am a White Sox fan, born and raised in Chicago, and this obsession with Boston sickens me. You hadn't won a World Series in 80 years...big F'in deal. Neither have we! My Sox never even get close. I'd take a dozen playoff heartbreaks rather than the crap I have to live with.

I hate Manny Ramirez, the fact that he makes more anually than our entire starting infield combined, and that the nationial sports media covers him more than my team, which is by far the best in baseball. I hate Johnny Damon, because he's largely been a mediocre center fielder for his entire career. Does anyone even remember him on KC? I do, and he wasn't that good. Curt Schilling: being the 10th best right handed starter of your generation doesn't make you the Jesus Christ of baseball.

The giant payroll, the fairweather fans, Bill Simmons devoting his entire career to the Red Sox, Big Papi (who still has a total of merely 2 productive seasons), people named Trot, Keith Foulke (who as any White Sox fan will tell you was over the hill two years ago and cannot come in during the 8th inning), and Tim Wakefield. F all of you.

[pryor15]

dude, chill out.

and while you're at it, take off your Windy City blinders. the white sox are good, but they ain't that good.

oh, and by my count, ortiz is in the middle of his 4th productive season...damon was pretty damn good in 98/99 in KC...and in what universe are you in where Schilling is only the 10th best of his generation?

[DougOzzzz]

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I Keith Foulke (who as any White Sox fan will tell you was over the hill two years ago and cannot come in during the 8th inning)

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Is that why he was so terrible in 2003 and 2004? Oh wait... those were two of his best years.

[kenberman]

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I hate Manny Ramirez, the fact that he makes more anually than our entire starting infield combined,

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what does this have to do with Red Sox fans? and why are you upset up this all of a sudden?

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Curt Schilling: being the 10th best right handed starter of your generation doesn't make you the Jesus Christ of baseball.

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if you don't understand why Curt Schilling is popular in Boston, you're probably not aware of what happened in last years playoffs and World Series.

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The giant payroll

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what does this have to do with fans?

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Bill Simmons devoting his entire career to the Red Sox

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he's been writing about the same topics since at least 1997 - nothing new here. he was bostonsportsguy.com for years before we was ESPN's "Sports Guy".

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Big Papi (who still has a total of merely 2 productive seasons)

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he's been an MVP candidate ever since he started playing full-time for the Sox.

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people named Trot

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huh? you don't like Red Sox fans named Trot? Because I don't know any.

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Keith Foulke (who as any White Sox fan will tell you was over the hill two years ago and cannot come in during the 8th inning)

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go ask the Yankees if he can come in in the 8th inning. again, I have no idea what this has to do with Red Sox fans.

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Tim Wakefield

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universally repected by teamates, opponents, media, and fans. good guy to hate.

[bort411]

Let me guess, we have a few Red Sox fans in the house? Big surprise. I'm sure you are all lifelong diehards.

[porkchop]

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Let me guess, we have a few Red Sox fans in the house? Big surprise. I'm sure you are all lifelong blowhards .

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FYP.

[lu_hawk]

amen brother.

[Toro]

And they're likely to get worse after the good sox beat the bad sox in the playoffs(not me, I'll stay humble). Afraid you're going to have to learn to live with it.

[Los Feliz Slim]

Yankee fans tend to get all worked up when criticized.

I, for one, don't give a [censored] what you think. I'm still just so happy they pulled it off last year, while achieving the greatest comeback in the history of professional sports against a team I am genetically programmed to hate.

Rage, rage, against the dying of the light!

[mrbaseball]

I just hate ESPN and the national media. Although the attitude is reflected in a board like this where Yankee/Boston discussion overshadows all else. The Yankees are the most overrated pile of overpaid crap ever assembled and Boston doesn't have the pitching to win a post season series as they lead the weakest division in baseball sans the NL west.

Yet according to ESPN and the national idiots the baseball sun rises and sets on these two overpaid franchises. Theres lots of other teams and divisions with lots better baseball than you will see out of these two bloated teams. Personally since Baltimaore crashed and burned I'm rooting for a Toronto surprise to catch fire and win the East. Too bad Halliday got hurt. I'd be real happy to see neither of these teams in the playoffs. The talking heads at espn would be speechless and have no idea who to slobber over.

[RacersEdge]

I don't follow the AL - who is Big Papi? I would guess Ortiz.

[sublime]

as they lead the weakest division in baseball


hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[mrbaseball]

Don't laugh if you disagree, dispute it. AL east is the weakest pitching division in the AL. Since pitching is so important I consider them softest. Those teams can certainly thump the ball but then again they have to!

In team ERA the east teams rank 6 (Tor),9 (Bal),10 (NY),11 (Bos), and 14 (TB) in the AL. Not too impressive. Certainly not good enough to get far in the post season where pitching reigns supreme. The East doesn't have the arms to get anywhere this year. Unless maybe Toronto and a healthy Halliday get there? In any event the wildcard isn't gonna be anywhere near the east.

[sublime]

Certainly not good enough to get far in the post season where pitching reigns supreme.

tell that to the cardinals last year, who's 04 rotation is similar to the red sox of 05. this is also without adding schilling into the mix (let me guess, hes washed up?)

AL east is the weakest pitching division in the AL Those teams can certainly thump the ball but then again they have to!

hmmm, you don't draw any correlation between these two statements? one would think since a division was loaded with powerful hitters, the pitching would suffer. you do realize these teams play each other a very large amount?

In any event the wildcard isn't gonna be anywhere near the east.

Certainly not good enough to get far in the post season where pitching reigns supreme.

the winner of the AL east will be (correctly) favored to win the American league.

the yankees are tied with cleveland for second in the WC race, 2 games behind the A's. yes, the race should be called over now.

fwiw, i think the AL east is the strongest division in baseball.

[Lazymeatball]

Wouldn't the team ERA of the AL east be somewhat influenced by the AL East players that "can certainly thump the ball?"

[kenberman]

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you clearly think pitching is the only relevant statistic.

and you do realize that Curt Schilling has barely pitched this year, ditto for Foulke, and the Red Sox have 2 or 3 young arms ready to come up and contribute on the major league level. Schilling has an eye towards the starting rotation, Foulke is throwing again, and when those things happen the Sox pitching will be a whole lot better.

and btw they lead the league in runs.

[TeeJayORTj]

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Don't laugh if you disagree, dispute it. AL east is the weakest pitching division in the AL. Since pitching is so important I consider them softest. Those teams can certainly thump the ball but then again they have to!

In team ERA the east teams rank 6 (Tor),9 (Bal),10 (NY),11 (Bos), and 14 (TB) in the AL. Not too impressive. Certainly not good enough to get far in the post season where pitching reigns supreme. The East doesn't have the arms to get anywhere this year. Unless maybe Toronto and a healthy Halliday get there? In any event the wildcard isn't gonna be anywhere near the east.

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I am rather sure that no pitching staff in baseball is that scary this year. And when the AL East teams keep playing eachother and with all the excellent hitters in that division obviously ERA will be inflated. Also its Halladay.

[DougOzzzz]

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Also its Halladay.

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It's it's.

[technologic]

schilling is out, and the yankees rotation (something like 15 starting pitchers this year) has been battered and torn again and again by injuries (although i hope wright stays injured)

to say the AL East is the weakest division is totally ludicrous. NL west anyone?

although i don't know if AL East champions would be the favorites, as the A's are looking pretty nasty right now...

[sublime]

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schilling is out, and the yankees rotation (something like 15 starting pitchers this year) has been battered and torn again and again by injuries (although i hope wright stays injured)

to say the AL East is the weakest division is totally ludicrous. NL west anyone?

although i don't know if AL East champions would be the favorites, as the A's are looking pretty nasty right now...

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The AL east is the best division in baseball, and I dont feel out on a limb saying that.

Also, if NY/Sox win the division the sportsbook will put them as favorites to win ALCS. IMO, its the correct move.

[TeeJayORTj]

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Also its Halladay.

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It's it's.

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My name is not MrGrammatical his name is MrBaseball.

[technologic]

how much of a favorite would you say? i don't know if it's by that much this year, neither of the teams have a dominating pitching staff while harden/zito combo is looking nasty.

[sublime]

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how much of a favorite would you say? i don't know if it's by that much this year, neither of the teams have a dominating pitching staff while harden/zito combo is looking nasty.

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it *shouldnt* really be big at all, however the linesmakers are going to factor into the equation the betting publics obsession with 'glitzy' teams.

[Uston]

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how much of a favorite would you say? i don't know if it's by that much this year, neither of the teams have a dominating pitching staff while harden/zito combo is looking nasty.

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To give you an example, here are the current odds to win the WS:

Boston Red Sox...........+495
New York Yankees.........+675
Los Angeles Angels.......+875
Chicago White Sox........+935
Oakland Athletics........+1025

[technologic]

white sox > a's?!?!?!?!

well i guess since they're almost a lock to reach the playoffs...

[mrbaseball]

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to say the AL East is the weakest division is totally ludicrous. NL west anyone?


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I clearly said sans NL west. I have to imagine you don't know what sans means or didn't read what I wrote in the first place.

I won't argue the point anymore but the once mighty east is weak this year. Like you said the starting staffs have been battered with injury. That makes them weak by definition. And yeah, the team from the east will probably get favored. Just because the betting public is a bunch of slobbering morons without a clue just means more opportunity for those that understand what the real lines should be.

Looking at inter-divisional records it sort of a vicious circle: Central>East>West>Central. I just don't think the east looks all that great primarily for there weak-ass wounded pitching staffs with the non-existant bullpens.

[kyro]

haha. this is a funny post.

what is with all the red sox bashing. the least you haters could do is formulate decent evidence as to why you don't like them as opposed to the crap you guys seem to be pulling out of thin air. Yeah, hate the Red Sox fans because you hate Tim Wakefield who is only one of the more respected people in baseball. Excellent job nimrod.

[dtbog]

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what does this have to do with Red Sox fans?

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nice post.

[johnnybeef]

as an indians fan, i feel your pain....no wait, i feel it even more than you do. there is no feeling in life like thinking that your team which has been so bad for the duration of your entire life is finally gonna win it, only to see jose mesa blow it in the 9th inning of game 7 of the world series. your team is having a great year, and if my beloved tribe cant pull it off this year, then i would love to see the white sox win it all.

ps. this comment.....

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Curt Schilling: being the 10th best right handed starter of your generation doesn't make you the Jesus Christ of baseball.

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is so way off that it is sick. with the exception of clemens, there has been no one better in the last ten years (pedro only has one ring.)

[UncleRemus]

The Red Sox are .656 outside of their "weak" division -- good for the best in baseball. Even the Yankees are winning at .588 outside of the east. The White Sox, by comparison, are winning at a .574 clip outside of the central . . .