"Official" Live at the Bike thread (8/5)

[Kevmath]

Tonight's show certainly has to be better than yesterday's 5/10 NL passive fest. Even with the pink chips added, it wasn't the best night to watch. On Wednesday night, there was talk of doing a 25/50 NL game, but don't know if that will really be the case. As always, you can watch at www.thebike.com (http://www.thebike.com) and click on live at the bike along the left or put http://216.53.204.10/bike/bike_300.asx into your Windows Media Player.

[Dopey]

It seems they given up completely on limit which is such a disappointment as I don't play much NL.

I miss when it used to say next to the Wednesday game "Its not all about No Limit". I guess now it is just no limit, cheesy tournaments, gimic pink chips and big breasted bimbos playing poorly.

Maybe its time to cancel my subscription to the archives (especially since they have given up on organizing them like they first did)

Dopey /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[Kevmath]

There had been some talk of them doing shows with limit poker at higher levels during Legends. Have you emailed your concerns about how poorly the archives are now at live@thebike.com? It wouldn't be terrible if they stuck with their usual schedule of a limit game every Wednesday night, but don't know if this Poker Channel thing will hamstring them into showing only NL.

[Kashie]

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It seems they given up completely on limit which is such a disappointment as I don't play much NL.

I miss when it used to say next to the Wednesday game "Its not all about No Limit". I guess now it is just no limit, cheesy tournaments, gimic pink chips and big breasted bimbos playing poorly.

Maybe its time to cancel my subscription to the archives (especially since they have given up on organizing them like they first did)

Dopey /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

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What do you mean organizing, what has changed?

[Russ McGinley]

I don't like to complain a lot anymore about the show, as being behind the scenes for a couple of days makes you aware of how difficult the show is, but this hasn't been the best week for LATB. Bart and Shirley both sounded very tired Wed. and Thurs., and Shirley remarked on her blog that she was very bored last night trying to say something other than "limped around, 5-ways" and such. I think we all know that it can be painful just watching boring poker, but commentating boring poker is even more painful. It might not be a bad idea for Bart and the others to come up with some topics to talk about before the show in the event that its a snooze-fest.

[Jive Dadson]

I too would like to see a lot of limit games.

It will come as no surprise to regulars here that I am very disappointed with the production. It's such a great idea. I keep coming back though. It's the "only game in town."

Why can't they start on time???? For a broadcast, thirty seconds late is not on time. It's 6:05, and I'm starting the Media Player, getting the promo, killing the player, starting it... If for some reason they can't start on time, at the very least they should put up a sign rather than running that promo.

[masher]

Right on, put up a we're late sign. we forgive you for that, but the promo is gettin iold

[dabigbadrook]

My 2 cents

1. Start on time or post a message immediately saying the broadcast will be delayed.
2. Cut the broadcasts to three times a week.
a. 1 Night High limit poker (30-60 or above)
b. The traditional Friday night High No limit game
c. "Gimmick Night" pink chips, centerfolds, and such
3. Rotate announcers half way thru the show (Most announcers for this show are great, just limit their shifts to two hours apiece so they will be fresh)

The delays in the start time are MADDENING....

[Kevmath]

Or they could just film the floor, that should be easy enough to do. Last night, the show started at 9:15, and it seemed they had been going for a few minutes, as it wasn't acknowledged they had started late.

[BartHanson]

WE have had some difficulties. We just realized that we were not streaming for the first 15 minutes. Tonight's event is 1000NL holdem with AMir Vahedi and JESUS!!! James Woods may becoming on later as well.

[Nathan_2]

Have not had the patience to sit through the entire promo but spent some time moving through it and have not found it. I think the PC police censored it.

I've been a long time watcher, and have obviously never posted before as this is my first post to the 2+2 forums.

I am in the process of planning a trip out to L.A. and would be very interested in playing on the L@TB table while I'm there. Is there anything special that I would need to do in order to ensure that I could play on the day(s) that I am there?

[Jive Dadson]

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WE have had some difficulties. We just realized that we were not streaming for the first 15 minutes. Tonight's event is 1000NL holdem with AMir Vahedi and JESUS!!! James Woods may becoming on later as well.

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Two words: "On-air monitor" (... or is that three words?)

[dabigbadrook]

Going back to the "Barry" thing on wed night, which Jesus is it? The horrible go for broke Jesus, Chris Ferguson, our lord and savior, or Jesus from Taco John's?

Just remembering the Barry greenstein thing on wed LOL

[Russ McGinley]

Nice. Are we talking about James Woods the ACTOR and not James Woods the electrician or some other nonsense like Wednesday? /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Kashie]

All these ideas are good except-----

Whose going to pay for this?

You might start paying to watch more than the archives if you dont watch it.
I'd let them work all this out in their own time.

Quit trying to produce the show.

[Dopey]

They used to seperate into catagories (Limit / No Limit / Special Tournaments) so it was easier to find what you wanted.

They also used to include a brief not saying what the game was or a brief description of what you would see, now it just says "08/03 - Game".

Now if I want to go back and watch a $200 No Limit I have to open each one and watch a minute or two to find out if it is the game I want.

Just overall disappointing. I have send several e-mails complaing about this but as has been said elsewhere they are the only game in town.

Dopey /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[Kevmath]

Jesus Ferguson doesn't usually play cash games, so I'll assume it's the other Jesus we've seen in the NL games. The Barry thing is my fault, I jumped to a conclusion with that one, so pin all that blame on me.

[cwsiggy]

We'll finally get to see if James Woods is "soo not dead money" as he puts it.

[BartHanson]

started streaming tminus 2minutes till broadcast.

[Dopey]

I would happily pay for the show if it showed me more of what I wanted.

However I realize what I want may not be what others want so it is unrealistic of me in some ways.

I for example hate the table talk sections. I play enough live poker to know how boring people are. I understand the commentators need a break at times so I'd prefer rotating commentators. Probably wont happen because some people like table talk and hate the commentators.

Dopey /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[RollaJ]

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WE have had some difficulties We just realized that we were not streaming for the first 15 minutes. Tonight's event is 1000NL holdem with AMir Vahedi and JESUS!!! James Woods may becoming on later as well.

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Does that mean they are over?, Im still not getting it

Have you been to Dubai? Just curious on seeing your Emirates shirt.

ViolentGandhi

[RollaJ]

got it

[Kevmath]

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Have you been to Dubai? Just curious on seeing your Emirates shirt.

ViolentGandhi

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I think Tuch's a Chelsea fan.

At least the broadcast is starting now.

[dabigbadrook]

Camera zoom in on that mountain of food by seat 4. They just kept adding to it at the beginning of the broadcast.

[Russ McGinley]

We need at least five "That's how you got balls, baby!" lines from Amir tonight. Interesting that they positioned him in the 9 seat right over the mic.

[Jive Dadson]

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I for example hate the table talk sections. I play enough live poker to know how boring people are. I understand the commentators need a break at times so I'd prefer rotating commentators. Probably wont happen because some people like table talk and hate the commentators.

Dopey /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

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At first I was trying to study tells. For that it obviously would help to be able to hear what the players say. But the single microphone and the camera work aren't really condusive to casing the players.

[Kevmath]

It seems the change to the new section of the Bike has really killed most of the good camera angles, the overhead view isn't the best. Where's Amir's unlit cigar, he needs to break that out and maybe he hands will hold up.

[Russ McGinley]

YAY NO MORE TABLE TALK

I noticed last night that there was no TT segment, thought maybe it was an aberration.

[RollaJ]

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I for example hate the table talk sections. I play enough live poker to know how boring people are. I understand the commentators need a break at times so I'd prefer rotating commentators. Probably wont happen because some people like table talk and hate the commentators.

Dopey /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

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Ask, and ye shall recieve /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Russ McGinley]

Jesus >>>>>>>>>>>> Amir

And it's not close.

[Jive Dadson]

Nobody f**ks with the Jesus!

[Russ McGinley]

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Nobody f**ks with the Jesus!

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http://www.miserablelie.com/turturro/pictures/lebowski/Image9.jpg

[Kevmath]

Last week's picture was much better.

The shot with Amir/Jesus together in that big hand (10's v A-2) worked well with the two of them staring each other down.

[Jive Dadson]

You got a date Wednesday, baby. http://www.perfectpeople.net/media/celebs/451/0028.jpg

Can the guy who isnt Bart please explain why he is wearing a English football shirt, of a club that is owned by a Russian Billionaire , who stole all his money from the russian people?

[Russ McGinley]

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Last week's picture was much better.

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I'm looking for a good one. Don't want to just keep posting the same one.

[shaniac]

I've never really watched the show before. Do these guys always gossip so much?

is it possible that Amir was trying to get a read on the table¿

[Kevmath]

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Can the guy who isnt Bart please explain why he is wearing a English football shirt, of a club that is owned by a Russian Billionaire , who stole all his money from the russian people?

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Maybe he doesn't care? There's millions of people wearing Chelsea gear besides David, they don't seem to be concerned either.

Besides the 2003 WSOP, when has Amir been on TV?

I don't get the comment about gossip, I'm assuming it's in reference to Amir?

[Jive Dadson]

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I've never really watched the show before. Do these guys always gossip so much?

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Uh. Someone else want to handle this one?

Negreanu plays 2/4 k and 4/8 k at Bellagio.. i think he can beat the 1k buy in NL game

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I've never really watched the show before. Do these guys always gossip so much?

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Uh. Someone else want to handle this one?

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They have 4 live hours to fill.

[funkyworms]

You would back a 10/20 NL pro over Daniel Negreanu? Granted, Negreanu is known as a tournament player, but he plays 1.5k/3k thru 4k/8k cash games. That's a silly thing to say. Now if you said the same thing against TJ Cloutier or Phil Hellmuth, I would have to agree.

[shaniac]

I meant the announcers, declaring who the biggest fish in the game is, who lost weight recently, etc.

[Kashie]

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I meant the announcers, declaring who the biggest fish in the game is, who lost weight recently, etc.

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Aces Cracked?
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/209/crack9gi.jpg http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/209/crack9gi.jpg

[Jive Dadson]

Why check raise? Dr. BB had a bluff catcher hand. If he was going to stay in the hand, he was much better off calling it down rather than check-raising. The QT called it down and made a very nice profit.

[Kevmath]

I agree that how much weight someone lost isn't really something that needs to be talked about. Regarding who's the biggest fish, I'd say Allen's definitely more of a "fish" than Amir would be, based on previous broadcasts Allen has been involved with.

[funkyworms]

He posts his cash-game results on his forum at www.fullcontactpoker.com (http://www.fullcontactpoker.com)

[cwsiggy]

he said he is up 1 mill in the "big" cash games - that does not include the challenge matches

[Atarirob]

sounds like were doing damage control, Amir was the fish.

[Jive Dadson]

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sounds like were doing damage control, Amir was the fish.

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I guess we all have our piscine moments. http://cybersleuth-kids.com/coloring/images/fish.jpg

negreanu foum (http://fullcontactpoker.com/poker-forums/viewtopic.php?t=7981)
this lists his cash game results

By the way.. you do seem to know your stuff about football...Im a liverpool fan.. that was mighty final against milan.

[cwsiggy]

Lederer is one of the few that is good at both cash games and tournies. - though he is semi "retired" from cash games. He said he has his whole life to get back into those games but they need full attention to win.

[Jive Dadson]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think lager is a type of yeast. Bitter can be made with either lager or ale yeast. No?

[cwsiggy]

huh????????

[Kevmath]

If the A-6 v A-6 hand took place between two people they didn't know, would they have commented about it the same?

[Kevmath]

If I had the hands right, it was 57/43 in favor of Stephen, according to twodimes.net

[Aces McGee]

Th8h is a 57/43 favorite over Ad2d on 9d8d7s.

-McGee

Wow "jesus" is starting to play good... he must of read a book or something and aces mcgee I live in chevy chase MD

[Kevmath]

The Dr. is reverting to his usual strategy of playing too tight and laying down the best hand.

[Jive Dadson]

I did a four hour board shift for six years. Obviously, it had no ill effects on me.

[Jive Dadson]

Did the feed go kaput?

[Kevmath]

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Did the feed go kaput?

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The feed is still up, it's just the play that's slowed down.

[Jive Dadson]

Well, I lost it.

(Come on guys. I'm feeding you straight lines, here.)

[Jive Dadson]

I lost the feed several minutes ago. Do others still see it?

[Russ McGinley]

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Wow "jesus" is starting to play good... he must of read a book or something

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Yeah, he read the chapter in S/S2 that states "get drunk on Corona's and raise blind" written by Men the Master.

[PITTM]

i just tried to log on and its not working here.

rj

[TinCup]

Hey, Bart. How about an update on the situation? Earthquake? Power Outage? Computer done blowed up?

[Russ McGinley]

My feed is working just fine.

[Kevmath]

I haven't had a problem with the feed tonight, don't know why some are having a problem watching the show.

[TinCup]

The feed just returned.

[sleech]

Working here

[Big_Jim]

This game looks really, really soft for 10/20.

[Russ McGinley]

Jesus is a poker champion. He avoids Mo like the plague and bullies everybody else. Pure genius.

[Jive Dadson]

Yeah, mine's back on.

Jezus roolz. "You have a date Wednesday, baby."

[Russ McGinley]

ROFL

Worst. Laydown. Ever.

[Kevmath]

Is there a way someone can sponsor the worst move of the day? Folding a flopped flush seems a tad timid by Allen. Of course , going allin with the flopped straight on a 3 heart board, and not having a heart drawing dead to Mo's flopped flush.

[Big_Jim]

FOLDS THE FLUSH ON THE FLOP!
HAH!

[Big_Jim]

Run it three times when he's drawing dead... hah.

[Russ McGinley]

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Is there a way someone can sponsor the worst move of the day? Folding a flopped flush seems a tad timid by Allen.

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For $300 and change in a pot over $1000. Retarded on all levels.

[Scott_Baio]

drawing dead my ass!

he's drawing to running two higher hearts for the split..... he got worked! /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Kevmath]

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drawing dead my ass!

he's drawing to running two higher hearts for the split..... he got worked! /images/graemlins/wink.gif

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That would've happened if Danny Nguyen was in the hand.

[dontcrack]

How on earth can you lay that hand down??!?!?!?

ANNOUNCERS, I'm expecting Allen to get slapped per the statement made from the booth.

Anyway, why play NL or play those cards if you can't make that call.

[Ratman138]

what is this poker channel they keep talking about?

[Kevmath]

Sadly, the #1 station in Syracuse is a country music station, but they ain't playing no Kenny Rogers on it, it's more of a Shania Twain/Kenny Chesney type of thing.

[Kevmath]

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what is this poker channel they keep talking about?

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It's the Poker Channel, a digital cable channel in the UK www.pokerchannel.co.uk (http://www.pokerchannel.co.uk) They're airing edited versions of the L@TB program.

[Jive Dadson]

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Sadly, the #1 station in Syracuse is a country music station, but they ain't playing no Kenny Rogers on it, it's more of a Shania Twain/Kenny Chesney type of thing.

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Then they ain't playing no country music.

[Kevmath]

I don't listen to it myself, I prefer listening to NPR in the morning.