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nate_king1
08-05-2005, 03:17 PM
Hand Histories..

7 Players, 50/100 Blinds

Hero 1100
Villian 1800
Villain2 1400


Villain Min-Raises UTG to 200
Villain2 in Small-Blind Calls
Hero Plushes (10-10)
Villian to call (900)

nate_king1
08-05-2005, 03:24 PM
bump

jgunnip
08-05-2005, 03:26 PM
the post is lacking some important information.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1861331&page=&view=&sb=5& o=&vc=1

ace_in_the_hole
08-05-2005, 03:28 PM
I play it the same way, your only behind to 4 hands, and its 3 handed. Add in the fact that both could fold and I think its a good push.

nate_king1
08-05-2005, 03:28 PM
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the post is lacking some important information.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1861331&page=&view=&sb=5& o=&vc=1

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OMG not everybody has PokerTracker. Just make the best of it. Standard 11 player.

11t
08-05-2005, 03:29 PM
Did his min-raise come from EP or LP? I don't think most players have any idea about the value of position but I tend to give LP raises far less credit at lower limits than EP raises. If this min-raise came from the CO or button than without a good read I think not pushing is moronic. Of course there are many players who min-bet with AA/KK in an attempt to feign weakness, build a big pot, and de-stack somebody who re-raises them.

Anyways, generally speaking, and more true of the 11's is this, in the long run pushing over the top of min-bets from your average player in LP with TT from is going to be +EV. So without a read telling you otherwise this is completely standard.

nate_king1
08-05-2005, 03:29 PM
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I play it the same way, your only behind to 4 hands, and its 3 handed. Add in the fact that both could fold and I think its a good push.

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Yep I have been playing tight all tourney long. So I just want them to lay it down. So I can increase my stack 50%.

DyessMan89
08-05-2005, 03:34 PM
Need a lot more information then this ... a lot more. What kind of hands does this player min-raise with? Given no reads or anything, Ill push.

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OMG not everybody has PokerTracker. Just make the best of it. Standard 11 player

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You dont need Poker Tracker to answer many of these questions. Just giving stack sizes and the blinds doesnt help much.

schwza
08-05-2005, 03:46 PM
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Need a lot more information then this ... a lot more. What kind of hands does this player min-raise with? Given no reads or anything, Ill push.

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OMG not everybody has PokerTracker. Just make the best of it. Standard 11 player

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You dont need Poker Tracker to answer many of these questions. Just giving stack sizes and the blinds doesnt help much.

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reads are nice, but many of my posts don't have them. however, all of my posts have stack sizes. if you don't know them, make them up so we're all talking about the same situation.

08-05-2005, 03:48 PM
In response to your post, as a poster on this forum I would like to advise you of the following:

[ ] Read the FAQ
[ ] Use the Search Function
[x] It's Just Variance
[ ] Your Sample Size is Too Small
[ ] This is a Bad Beat Post!
[x] You Might Suck
[x] Party is Rigged
[ ] Pwn3d!
[x] Push
[ ] Fold Preflop


Note: hey, this thing works g00t!

nate_king1
08-05-2005, 03:50 PM
[ QUOTE ]
In response to your post, as a poster on this forum I would like to advise you of the following:

[ ] Read the FAQ
[ ] Use the Search Function
[x] It's Just Variance
[ ] Your Sample Size is Too Small
[ ] This is a Bad Beat Post!
[x] You Might Suck
[x] Party is Rigged
[ ] Pwn3d!
[x] Push
[ ] Fold Preflop


Note: hey, this thing works g00t!

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Are you stupid or something?

08-05-2005, 03:53 PM
probably, but at least im not getting destroyed at the $11s /images/graemlins/cool.gif

nate_king1
08-05-2005, 03:55 PM
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probably, but at least im not getting destroyed at the $11s /images/graemlins/cool.gif

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jgunnip
08-05-2005, 04:52 PM
I have PT but don't use it for SNGs.

anyway, I agree with 11t. I like the push.